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  Human Origins

  by cofty in

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  fantastic graphic produced by the smithsonian institute illustrating human origins.

  click on any of the group or species labels for more detailed information.. meet your ancestors here....

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  WhatshallIcallmyself

  Fisherman -

  The conclusions are based on facts; or to put it another way the facts make the conclusion.

  I really don't understand what your problem is with this.
  
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  Human Origins

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  fantastic graphic produced by the smithsonian institute illustrating human origins.

  click on any of the group or species labels for more detailed information.. meet your ancestors here....

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  WhatshallIcallmyself

  Fisherman -

  1 - You cannot leave footprints in rocks.

  2 - You cannot leave footprints in soft ground before the soft ground is there.

  3 - Layers have to be buried under subsequent layers in order to lithify.

  Conclusion:

  The foot prints you see (assuming they are human in origin) had to have been made shortly after (years to 10s of years) the deposition of the layer(s) they disturb.

  What is your take on these prints and how does that fit with known geological processes?

  As an aside, where you quoted me it can be proven that footprints cannot be preserved during a period of erosion; the reasons for this should be obvious...
  
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  Human Origins

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  fantastic graphic produced by the smithsonian institute illustrating human origins.

  click on any of the group or species labels for more detailed information.. meet your ancestors here....

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  WhatshallIcallmyself

  "The substrate can be tested but how can one know when the footprints were actually made." - Fisherman

  The substrate would need to be soft enough to allow indents to be made, therefore lithification had not occurred at the point the prints were made.

  The prints must have been made during a period of deposition because if erosion was occurring we could not still see them as they would have been eroded at the time of making. Therefore as more layers were placed on top, compaction would begin the lithification process.

  After the lithified strata was eroded away revealing this particular layer, the now visible surface would be too hard to leave these impressions.
  

  Therefore, if this layer is dated to between 5-7 Ma then that is when the prints were made.
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  Creation proves JWs system is wrong

  by venus in

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  to revolt is a natural tendency of life.

  even a worm turns against the foot that crushes it.

  the vitality and relative dignity of an animal can be measured by the intensity of its instinct to revolt.

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  WhatshallIcallmyself

  Venus -

  That sounds like something William Lane Craig would come up with...

  Your initial premise is flawed therefore your conclusion is incorrect. A worm would react, not revolt. To revolt you first have to understand that something is happening for a reason and strive to work against that reason for reasons of your own. Are you suggesting a worm (or indeed life in general) has the capability to reason and exercises this ability in the course of its everyday life?
  
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  Help! Mike & Kim videos all being deleted by Youtube

  by mrmagic in

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  2. scandals

  due to watchtower flagging the mike & kim videos on youtube for copyright, youtube is giving them 6 days before they are shutting down their entire youtube channel.

  can you help with a mass downloading program and then reuploading them on a mirror ?

  would hate to lose all those good videos!

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  WhatshallIcallmyself

  What have they done to get YT doing this?

  Unless they are copy pasting entire articles, using their trade marked icons/people (sofia) or using entire videos I though the 'fair use' policy would be invoked.

  YT often do these things without checking things out for themselves. That 6 days is for them to reply to these allegations...
  
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  As a JW how would you answer this if someone brought it up in the ministry?

  by NikL in

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  as a jw i pretty much just went along with what was taught from the platform i didn't do any real bible study.

  as a result, now that i am out of the org.

  i find scriptures that blow my mind.. i am not sure how i would have reacted if someone had pointed this out to me when i was a jw but now i can't believe i've never noticed this before.

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  WhatshallIcallmyself

  The Bible is full of crap being passed off as reality (flood, creation account etc...) so trying to make sense of the other stuff in order to figure out what god wants (or is) is pointless. You might as well read Harry Potter and try to work out the meaning of life from that. It is fiction.

  I really don't understand how people, who are looking for god, think that the Bible is a good place to start.
  
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  Columbus Circle monument could be next statue to go

  by freemindfade in

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  christopher columbus could be next on the monuments chopping block.. the 76-foot structure honoring the explorer at columbus circle should be among the statues reviewed by the city for potential purging, city council speaker melissa mark-viverito said on monday.. http://nypost.com/2017/08/21/columbus-circle-monument-could-be-next-statue-to-go/.

  if this goes on, these people are just validating what the orange one said, where will it stop?

  how will people 200 years from now look back on us?

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  WhatshallIcallmyself

  ""modern version of sustainability" is this a joke?" - Laika

  No it's not. You seem to think that our farming management should be perfect and then go on to attack it because it is not perfect. What you said about native/indigenous people's view of sustainability is irrelevant to modern discourse because it applies to a different time (smaller populations and no modern technology). Perhaps I could apply the same logic you are applying and expect their understanding of their environment to be perfect for us. I won't do that though because that would be too simplistic and not realistic.

  The opinion piece you linked to did not supply any primary source material or links to such things...
  
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  Columbus Circle monument could be next statue to go

  by freemindfade in

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  2. current

  christopher columbus could be next on the monuments chopping block.. the 76-foot structure honoring the explorer at columbus circle should be among the statues reviewed by the city for potential purging, city council speaker melissa mark-viverito said on monday.. http://nypost.com/2017/08/21/columbus-circle-monument-could-be-next-statue-to-go/.

  if this goes on, these people are just validating what the orange one said, where will it stop?

  how will people 200 years from now look back on us?

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  WhatshallIcallmyself

  "The native/indigenous view of relationship to land and cultivation of the land is far superior to the European capitalist concept of owning and dominating the land (and far more sustainable)." - Laika

  That view has merit where a population is small. However modern populations are far larger than anything native/indigenous peoples had to deal with/work with. Smaller populations require different management practices of land due to a lack of man power as well as a lack of technology; you should also consider the lack of defence against natural events that can decimate crops/populations.

  Larger populations require different management techniques and the modern version of sustainability has little to do with the older style; indeed the older style would not work (unless you happen to be rich enough to buy enough land to support your family). So therefore our modern "European Capitalist" methods of sustainability is fit for purpose and far superior to that of ancient peoples living at different times with different needs.
  
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  Canada starts fight-back against bloodless surgery?

  by darkspilver in

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  2. medical

  i'm sure orphancrow will be able to fill in the details for us.. front page news with picture all over the canadian globe and mail newspaper today.. with major double-page spread across the whole of pages 8 and 9 in the newspaper's front section.. globe and mail, tuesday 8 august 2017.. the patient, a 70-year-old man with high-risk prostate cancer, was a jehovah’s witness.. his religion was one of the reasons he decided to undergo surgery at st. joseph’s healthcare in hamilton, home to a robot named da vinci whose steady metal hands can remove a prostate with scant risk of the blood transfusions forbidden by the man’s faith.. on a recent afternoon, the patient laid unconscious on an operating table as surgeon bobby shayegan and his team plunged a camera and three robotically controlled surgical instruments through small incisions in his abdomen.. dr. shayegan settled himself in front of a three-dimensional screen, clasped the two joysticks that controlled the tools inside his patient’s pelvis and proceeded to cut, cauterize and stitch until he freed the man’s prostate, pulling it out through one of the original incisions.. there was next to no blood.. “that was routine,” dr. shayegan said afterward, holding the plum-sized gland that he and the robot had removed together.

  ...in its first real ruling on a robotic surgery, the expert committee that advises ontario on which new health technologies to pay for said there was no good evidence that robot-assisted radical prostatectomy is any better than conventional open surgery when it comes to controlling cancer or preserving urinary and sexual function.. the panel said the robot’s other benefits – patients have smaller incisions, lose less blood, suffer less pain and leave the hospital sooner – were not significant enough to justify spending, on average, an extra $3,224 a case, a figure that does not include the millions that wealthy benefactors have spent buying the machines for canadian hospitals.

  https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health-and-fitness/health/the-fight-for-robots-in-canadas-operatingrooms/article35897282/.

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  WhatshallIcallmyself

  "Yes, it is a guess." - OC

  Of course. I don't have access to the accounts of that Australian hospital!
  

  "And there isn't evidence to back up that guess" - OC

  Well there could be depending on how the accounts are handled at that hospital. I do know that over here in the UK costs can be moved around to make it very difficult to get an accurate representation of costs...
  
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  Canada starts fight-back against bloodless surgery?

  by darkspilver in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i'm sure orphancrow will be able to fill in the details for us.. front page news with picture all over the canadian globe and mail newspaper today.. with major double-page spread across the whole of pages 8 and 9 in the newspaper's front section.. globe and mail, tuesday 8 august 2017.. the patient, a 70-year-old man with high-risk prostate cancer, was a jehovah’s witness.. his religion was one of the reasons he decided to undergo surgery at st. joseph’s healthcare in hamilton, home to a robot named da vinci whose steady metal hands can remove a prostate with scant risk of the blood transfusions forbidden by the man’s faith.. on a recent afternoon, the patient laid unconscious on an operating table as surgeon bobby shayegan and his team plunged a camera and three robotically controlled surgical instruments through small incisions in his abdomen.. dr. shayegan settled himself in front of a three-dimensional screen, clasped the two joysticks that controlled the tools inside his patient’s pelvis and proceeded to cut, cauterize and stitch until he freed the man’s prostate, pulling it out through one of the original incisions.. there was next to no blood.. “that was routine,” dr. shayegan said afterward, holding the plum-sized gland that he and the robot had removed together.

  ...in its first real ruling on a robotic surgery, the expert committee that advises ontario on which new health technologies to pay for said there was no good evidence that robot-assisted radical prostatectomy is any better than conventional open surgery when it comes to controlling cancer or preserving urinary and sexual function.. the panel said the robot’s other benefits – patients have smaller incisions, lose less blood, suffer less pain and leave the hospital sooner – were not significant enough to justify spending, on average, an extra $3,224 a case, a figure that does not include the millions that wealthy benefactors have spent buying the machines for canadian hospitals.

  https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health-and-fitness/health/the-fight-for-robots-in-canadas-operatingrooms/article35897282/.

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  OC -

  It seems the reason for dissatisfaction with the robotic route has more to do with initially overselling the procedure rather than complications with the actual procedure itself.

  http://www.europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(08)00764-1/abstract