Posts by WhatshallIcallmyself

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Friday crucifixion?

by rstrats in

it is my understanding that jws believe that the crucifixion occurred on friday.

however, luke 24:21 would seem to indicate that it couldn't have occurred any later than thursday.

how do you explain the seeming discrepancy?

WhatshallIcallmyself

Off topic but... 15 years for a reply??

Is that a record?

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Evolution doesn't happen today...WRONG...

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

last year i had a brother tell me that one proof evolution is false is that he doesn't see it happening today... i was going to bring of viruses evolving so fast that new vaccines must be developed each year but felt he was too closed minded to receive it.

today i was listening to the audio book of 'an ancestors tale- richard dawkins' and noted oe point that shined through.. here is evolution happening>>>.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/05/2/l_052_05.html.

WhatshallIcallmyself

"I know many scientists who are modest and balanced who say our area is to stick to what is quantifiable and empirical, God may exist or may not exist which doesn’t come under our purview." - venus

Whilst discussing science I do not think you will find many, if any, scientists who say science can show something about 'god'. However, when someone makes a claim regarding a 'god' it often does come under the remit of 'science' and therefore that claim can be tested.

Yes, we cannot show either way if there is a god or gods.

Yes, we can say with certainty that this particular claim made by a proponent of a particular flavour of god is wrong/right.

"So is the case with immaterial beings such as my mind..." - venus

You mind is very much 'material'. If you think otherwise, try scooping your brain out of your head with a spoon and then pop back on here and let us know if that affects your ability to write this stuff...

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Evolution doesn't happen today...WRONG...

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

last year i had a brother tell me that one proof evolution is false is that he doesn't see it happening today... i was going to bring of viruses evolving so fast that new vaccines must be developed each year but felt he was too closed minded to receive it.

today i was listening to the audio book of 'an ancestors tale- richard dawkins' and noted oe point that shined through.. here is evolution happening>>>.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/05/2/l_052_05.html.

WhatshallIcallmyself

"I like Science when it simply explains things" - Venus

Well then, you are in luck!

Why do you insist on quoting people so often? Can't you formulate your own thoughts? In the 2 paragraphs above you quote 3 people...

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Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

by dubstepped in

jw
friends

so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

WhatshallIcallmyself

Fisherman -

Every extant species is transitional and every extinct species was transitional. Fish and all 'complex invertebrates' share a common ancestor.

Those are just 2 obvious responses to 2 of your more obvious 'misunderstandings' from your recent posts that prove you do not understand what you are writing about.

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Evolution doesn't happen today...WRONG...

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

last year i had a brother tell me that one proof evolution is false is that he doesn't see it happening today... i was going to bring of viruses evolving so fast that new vaccines must be developed each year but felt he was too closed minded to receive it.

today i was listening to the audio book of 'an ancestors tale- richard dawkins' and noted oe point that shined through.. here is evolution happening>>>.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/05/2/l_052_05.html.

WhatshallIcallmyself

venus -

The guy's surname is Dawkins not Dwakins.

Also, we know for a certainty there was not global flood so the rest of your assertions that are based from the position that there is a biblical god are baseless...

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Did man really go to the moon?

by atomant in

l have researched this subject and come to the conclusion that no we didn't.what do others think?.

WhatshallIcallmyself

"Can someone elaborate"

I would guess he is talking about the infrastructure and political will...

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Flat earth vs round earth

by Jrjw in

my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.

what are people's thoughts on this?.

WhatshallIcallmyself

Seismology also demonstrates the Earth is a globe:

- Predictions are made on the basis of certain 'assumptions', one of them being the Earth is a globe.

- Predictions would fail consistently if the Earth were not a globe.

- Predictions do not fail constantly.

Ergo the Earth is a globe!

Seismic waves demonstrate the Earth is a globe:

- Primary compression waves travel at certain speeds in solid and liquid.

- Secondary sheer waves travel at certain speeds in solid but not liquid.

- Monitoring stations positioned all around the Earth pick up shock waves at expected intervals after a seismic event.

Ergo the Earth is a globe!

Tectonic plates demonstrate the Earth is a globe:

- We have mapped all of the plates on Earth and can measure their movements to the millimetre.

- They all touch another plate on all of their 'sides'.

- We can predict the movements of the plates based on how solid objects move over the liquid surface of a globe.

- The plates move just as the predictions predict.

Ergo the Earth is a globe.

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Flat earth vs round earth

by Jrjw in

my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.

what are people's thoughts on this?.

WhatshallIcallmyself

CaptainGrl and Kairos -

There are accusations of a lack of evidence based argumentation coming from the 'side' that does not think the Earth is flat.

Perhaps you could tell me what evidence you want.

- You don't want photos because they have been doctored.

- You don't want video because it would have been faked.

- You don't care about fundamental physics despite that explaining sufficiently why the Earth would be a globe.

- You don't offer anything substantial (i.e. what physical aspect of the universe would cause the Earth to be flat whilst everything else in the universe over a certain size is a globe) that I can consider.

- You don't believe testimony from astronauts who have been out into space and seen the Earth is a globe.

- You believe people who haven't seen the Earth's flatness with their own eyes.

- You can't explain how such a well resourced organisation (it's a world wide conspiracy involving millions of people!) makes stupid mistakes like in the photos you present above: Controlling people - YES! Double checking press releases - Opps...

In short my 'side' doesn't need to present evidence because the entirety of science is the evidence. I could suggest you learn some basic planetary science but I'm sure watching a YouTube video would be a lot easier for you.

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Flat earth vs round earth

by Jrjw in

my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.

what are people's thoughts on this?.

WhatshallIcallmyself

"From the moon the earth is small, from beyond the moon, it's bigger." - Kairos

You are starting to set off my troll alarm now. I can just about understand you holding to some of the ideas you do because the antidote to that is education. However that above only requires the knowledge we all have by looking out of the window.

Surely you understand that objects look smaller the further away they get?

Or are you ignorant of how cameras work? To suggest what you have suggested above is remarkably silly even considering some of the things you have been posting recently:

If you want a picture of the Earth and have the Moon you are standing on to be in shot you will need to choose a relevant set up that allows for that (you won't zoom in on the Earth as you would lose the Moon). When you don't want the Moon in shot you use the zoom function to miss out all the boring black stuff surrounding Earth.

It's really is that simple!

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Did man really go to the moon?

by atomant in

l have researched this subject and come to the conclusion that no we didn't.what do others think?.

WhatshallIcallmyself

"yah, but suggest this is what they are doing to the so-called "climate science" and watch peoples heads explode..." - CG

There is a marked difference between:

1 - Altering a graph or simplifying tables of data whilst keeping the original explanation intact so that people who aren't trained to understand raw data can appreciate a visual representation of scientific work.

2 - Altering a graph or simplifying tables of data in order to give an explanation that goes contrary to the accepted findings by scientists for political (or otherwise) purposes.

You should trust the experts because they are, experts... If you want to learn about the reasons behind their assertions you will need to train in the relevant field to appreciate the raw data.

16 years ago I said to someone on a forum that there was no evidence for either evolution or creation. I was a creationist at that time. I was challenged on this and was given a long list of evidences for evolution. Fortunately I decided to honestly take a good long look at what was on offer and that was the start of my education (formal and informal) in the sciences. Imagine what you can learn in 16 years and then consider my thoughts when I see someone writing nonsense that would take minutes to educate themselves on, if they cared enough. Of course it takes a while to learn how to get educated; yes I'm being serious about that... Just saying...