Just imagine that a modern work of fiction had as many plot holes and contradictions amongst the main characters...
Would it go straight into the editor's bin?
WhatshallIcallmyself
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Praying in the name of Michael the archangel instead of Jesus
by krismalone injust wondering what would happen if a brother saying a prayer in a meeting did it in the name of michael the archangel instead of closing the prayer with "jesus christ".
since jw's believe michael is jesus would he be counseled?
what if a brother used the name michael the archangel in their public talks instead of jesus?
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The book burning has started
by pale.emperor indon't know if this is a global thing but i've just been told by a pimo member of my old congregation that a min servant has been given the task of destroying all old books/literature in the kh library prior to 1992.. could be the elders (or even one of them) on a mission to stamp out dissent as my ex-wife used the same reasoning to her elder dad that i used in my jc: rutherfords books containing failed predictions.. anyone else heared anything?.
the ms who's been given the task is a company man.
no hope of him keeping them or selling them on ebay.. they have some russell books in that library too.
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WhatshallIcallmyself
Note of correction.
I misread a post from bobby above:
"But your parents and your parent’s siblings are of the same generation..."
Yes they are but their children are not.
Just out of interest, in the scripture that clearly alludes to the generation that will not pass away what was the Bible referring to?
A child who has yet to reproduce, a parent or a grandparent or a great grandparent?
Logically you would say those who were decoding the Bible. But maybe it was referring to the youngest generation. So if a child was 1 they would be over 100 now. There are a few people of that age range and contemporary with that time period left in the world but not many. I can understand why new light was needed in order to avoid another 1975 embarrassment but this overlapping generation crap just beggars belief.
It's almost like the GB don't care anymore. And it's not like they needed to rush to be 'inspired' because if the generation referred to was the youngest you could probably allow a few extra years after this supposed date of interest as that would remain in keeping with what the Bible states and with what this channel of god's truth has been selling this past century. A simple clarification of what may be inferred by generation would have bought them another decade or two.
But instead we have this carbuncle of a teaching that requires people like you bobby to twist meanings of words. And you lap it up!
As another poster often writes:
It's a cult.
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The book burning has started
by pale.emperor indon't know if this is a global thing but i've just been told by a pimo member of my old congregation that a min servant has been given the task of destroying all old books/literature in the kh library prior to 1992.. could be the elders (or even one of them) on a mission to stamp out dissent as my ex-wife used the same reasoning to her elder dad that i used in my jc: rutherfords books containing failed predictions.. anyone else heared anything?.
the ms who's been given the task is a company man.
no hope of him keeping them or selling them on ebay.. they have some russell books in that library too.
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WhatshallIcallmyself
"The denial of simple facts and logic here is astounding!"
Projection!
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The book burning has started
by pale.emperor indon't know if this is a global thing but i've just been told by a pimo member of my old congregation that a min servant has been given the task of destroying all old books/literature in the kh library prior to 1992.. could be the elders (or even one of them) on a mission to stamp out dissent as my ex-wife used the same reasoning to her elder dad that i used in my jc: rutherfords books containing failed predictions.. anyone else heared anything?.
the ms who's been given the task is a company man.
no hope of him keeping them or selling them on ebay.. they have some russell books in that library too.
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WhatshallIcallmyself
"But your parents and your parent’s siblings are of the same generation..."
No they aren't. There are 3 distinct generations there.
If you insist of redefining words then there is no point in a discussion with you, is there...
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/generation
Lots of definitions there... You choose one.
And now compare...
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/contemporary
This generation will not pass away.
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The book burning has started
by pale.emperor indon't know if this is a global thing but i've just been told by a pimo member of my old congregation that a min servant has been given the task of destroying all old books/literature in the kh library prior to 1992.. could be the elders (or even one of them) on a mission to stamp out dissent as my ex-wife used the same reasoning to her elder dad that i used in my jc: rutherfords books containing failed predictions.. anyone else heared anything?.
the ms who's been given the task is a company man.
no hope of him keeping them or selling them on ebay.. they have some russell books in that library too.
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WhatshallIcallmyself
Oh, and Bobby, saying something is a fact or is factual doesn't make it such.
However if you'd like to copy and paste some dictionary definitions of those two words we can make our own minds up, can't we...
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The book burning has started
by pale.emperor indon't know if this is a global thing but i've just been told by a pimo member of my old congregation that a min servant has been given the task of destroying all old books/literature in the kh library prior to 1992.. could be the elders (or even one of them) on a mission to stamp out dissent as my ex-wife used the same reasoning to her elder dad that i used in my jc: rutherfords books containing failed predictions.. anyone else heared anything?.
the ms who's been given the task is a company man.
no hope of him keeping them or selling them on ebay.. they have some russell books in that library too.
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WhatshallIcallmyself
Bobby...
I'm am a generation, my parents are another generation and my children are yet another generation. We are all contemporaries. Two different words conveying two different meanings.
If someone told my parents that their generation would not pass away I would be expecting the end anytime now.
If someone said my generation would not pass away I'd expect the end to come in a few decades at the most.
And if someone said my children's generation would not pass away...
However what has happened is they are now saying that all contemporaries of my grandparents will not pass away...
This is not scriptural and yes you do need to take note of definitions of words and the correct usage of such.
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The book burning has started
by pale.emperor indon't know if this is a global thing but i've just been told by a pimo member of my old congregation that a min servant has been given the task of destroying all old books/literature in the kh library prior to 1992.. could be the elders (or even one of them) on a mission to stamp out dissent as my ex-wife used the same reasoning to her elder dad that i used in my jc: rutherfords books containing failed predictions.. anyone else heared anything?.
the ms who's been given the task is a company man.
no hope of him keeping them or selling them on ebay.. they have some russell books in that library too.
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WhatshallIcallmyself
Bobby2246 -
It is not semantics to show that you, and the watchtower, are misusing words.
It's nothing to do with anything other than the overlapping generation position relying on inaccurate usage of words. It is very simple, if your initial premise is false then every thing that follows will also be false.
Perhaps you should look up the definition of a semantic argument whilst you are online...
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The book burning has started
by pale.emperor indon't know if this is a global thing but i've just been told by a pimo member of my old congregation that a min servant has been given the task of destroying all old books/literature in the kh library prior to 1992.. could be the elders (or even one of them) on a mission to stamp out dissent as my ex-wife used the same reasoning to her elder dad that i used in my jc: rutherfords books containing failed predictions.. anyone else heared anything?.
the ms who's been given the task is a company man.
no hope of him keeping them or selling them on ebay.. they have some russell books in that library too.
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WhatshallIcallmyself
Bobby2446-
Contemporary and generation are defined differently I.e. they are not the same word and cannot be used interchangeably.
The scripture being used clearly reads 'generation', not 'contemporaries'.
Yes generations do overlap but the scripture does not mention anything about overlapping does it...
The nonsense being pedaled as inspired light with regards to this overlapping generations ignores the definition of these words as well as ignoring what the Bible actually says.
However we might as well be arguing over how many angels it takes to burn tight trousers because it's all bs, isn't it..
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Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution
by dubstepped inso i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.
i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.
i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.
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WhatshallIcallmyself
Old Navy I have yet to see you write one argument that supports what you are saying. I have seen many logical fallacies, a large portion of projection and much irony but nothing that supports your assertions.
When will you get around to telling us just what, in your case, was the deciding factor that swung your opinion towards a creator?
It can't be something we don't know because, as you know, not knowing something is not evidence for, or a reason for, believing anything else. All that gap in knowledge tells us it that we don't know something...
It can't be an apparent design in nature because, as you know, we do not know how a creator created us therefore we would not know what to look for even if everything was created as you assert.
Most importantly of all, it can't be shown simply by rustling up a word salad and strewing clever sounding words almost randomly in numerous posts.
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Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution
by dubstepped inso i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.
i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.
i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.
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WhatshallIcallmyself
"okay I am confused. you say evolution do explain the origin of thought; @Coded Logic say evolution should not explain the origin of thought and wikipedia treat it as an unsolved problem." - Hot.
Evolutionary theory does explain the origin of thought. We all share a common ancestor and over time what we describe as 'thought' has evolved to what we see today. Remember what a scientific theory is and what it is not...
Evolutionary theory does not have to explain the origin of thought. The theory works anyway, even if we don't know everything yet.
The origin of thought has not yet been solved...
All 3 are accurate statements.
"Perhaps you too should write to wikipedia and provide your solution for how thought evolved?" - Hot.
Perhaps you should try to understand what a scientific theory is...