a fair bit of time was spent discussing the (one) scripture in the bible that "proves" that when the bible touches on scientific subjects, it is absolutely correct.
this was at the most recent clam meeting this past week.
from isaiah, the reference to the "circle" of the earth.
according to the Bible, God is the author of the book --------Fisherman,
There is a Hebrew word for ball, it used at Isaiah 22:18. Why not use that to describe the earth instead of using a word that just goes along with the incorrect idea of the time ------Annon
a fair bit of time was spent discussing the (one) scripture in the bible that "proves" that when the bible touches on scientific subjects, it is absolutely correct.
this was at the most recent clam meeting this past week.
from isaiah, the reference to the "circle" of the earth.
So the writer of Isaiah 40:22 was an astronaut?
Even if the writer of Isaiah 40:22 was an astronaut, stating that the earth is a circle does NOT indicate that it is NOT FLAT which is not scientific.
Nu-light: A circle = A sphere !!!
Non-WT real world Mathematics: A circle DOES NOT = A sphere
a fair bit of time was spent discussing the (one) scripture in the bible that "proves" that when the bible touches on scientific subjects, it is absolutely correct.
this was at the most recent clam meeting this past week.
from isaiah, the reference to the "circle" of the earth.
Fisherman,
According to your argument, Isaiah 40:22 CANNOT be used to prove that the earth is NOT FLAT. It is therefore disingenuous on the part of religionists like the WT to use this verse to show that the Bible is scientific since according to your argument, Isaiah 40:22 is NOT stating that the earth is NOT FLAT. Religionists need to stop using this verse for that purpose.
From the earth, the moon looks like a circle. And so does the earth looking from the moon or from above the earth or from any angle or direction............the verse is not incorrect when it refers to the circle of the earth from the point of view of the author of the related verse.
Where was the author when he wrote Isaiah 40:22? Was he on the moon or some other planet?
have da'd myself nearly 3 months ago.
now i am part of this world but i feel myself the odd one out.
something inside me is still blocking me to do the things i have been longing to do while i was still a jw, such as attending birthday parties, sex, etc.... just last nite, i was on the way to attend a birthday party.
Hey, have most of you become atheist?--------sinboi
Do you believe in Allah, Krishna, Buddha? If not then you are an atheist with respect to these gods.
Do you believe any of the following Holy Books is the word of god?
Tanakh, Talmud, Torah, Vedic Scriptures, Bhagavad Gita, Quran (Koran), Hadith, Avesta
a fair bit of time was spent discussing the (one) scripture in the bible that "proves" that when the bible touches on scientific subjects, it is absolutely correct.
this was at the most recent clam meeting this past week.
from isaiah, the reference to the "circle" of the earth.
earth was a flat circular disk.
Show this from the Bible --------Fisherman
How many dimensions does a circle have? (Isaiah 40:22)
return of the dub (plus surprise guest)dealing with just one frisky, bright-eyed jehovah’s witness is a handful.one on one is manageable.
two jw’s is more like juggling chainsaws or french kissing alligators.i had a return visit the other day and now, the jw was returning the 2nd time, but with another dub.what would my strategy be?
that’s how the day was spent.
Terry,
How about this argument?
ARMAGEDDON COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED.
Since it's all about killing humans, if God could almost wipe out every human during the Flood and plans on destroying humans again at Armageddon then why not just destroy Adam & Eve before they had any children and start over again, and keep starting over if necessary, until he got the perfect couple, since it's all about killing humans?
There would be less collateral damage. All of the human suffering, all of the wars and diseases could have been avoided etc etc.
Or is t that God can only be satisfied if there's some drama?
a fair bit of time was spent discussing the (one) scripture in the bible that "proves" that when the bible touches on scientific subjects, it is absolutely correct.
this was at the most recent clam meeting this past week.
from isaiah, the reference to the "circle" of the earth.
the "circle" of the earth. Depends on the perspective or point of view; the sun does not move in relation to the earth either. "A sphere looks like a circle from any angle or direction. (That's one of the ways people knew that the Earth is a sphere ... every time there's a lunar eclipse, the ..." --answers.com ----------Fisherman
Why didn’t the Bible just state this?
have da'd myself nearly 3 months ago.
now i am part of this world but i feel myself the odd one out.
something inside me is still blocking me to do the things i have been longing to do while i was still a jw, such as attending birthday parties, sex, etc.... just last nite, i was on the way to attend a birthday party.
Sindoi,
Life is to be enjoyed but it goes without saying that we should always be guided by the principle that our decisions and actions can have good or bad consequences so we need to think before we speak or act.
We do harm to ourselves (and others) by our own bad decisions and actions. This is not punishment by "God" it is just the consequence of our OWN decisions and actions. You are not "sinning" against "God". If you are "sinning" against anyone it would be against yourself because YOU have to live with the consequences of your decisions and actions.
Enjoy life but always think about the likely consequences or potential harm to yourself and others of your decisions and actions.
good morning everyone,.
came across a very funny yet sensible poster on field service and wanted to share.
most of us would have done field service once upon a time and this poster would really make us laugh..
LOL. Good one.
as a jw i pretty much just went along with what was taught from the platform i didn't do any real bible study.
as a result, now that i am out of the org.
i find scriptures that blow my mind.. i am not sure how i would have reacted if someone had pointed this out to me when i was a jw but now i can't believe i've never noticed this before.
NikL,
No need to worry, whichever side you choose you are right.
The Bible is contradictory. There are scriptures which state that Jesus is God & there are scriptures which state that Jesus is NOT God.
Just a note: the doctrine of the Trinity is no where announced in the Old Testament (OT).
The Trinity - God in three persons - is a concept completely foreign to Jewish thought.
Not only did Jesus not fulfill the OT prophecies of what the messiah would do, in nature he was also completely different from what the OT said the messiah would be. The Old Testament’s clear expectation is that the Jews’ savior would be a righteous and powerful, but still entirely human ruler.
There is no hint that he would be God’s own son, much less one-third of God himself. This development - the division of the formerly unified deity into Father, Son and Holy Ghost - did not come about until later, the time of formation of the New Testament canon.
No verse in the Old Testament anticipates such a startling disclosure, and some verses even seem to deny it:
- Deuteronomy 6:4
- Deuteronomy 32:39
- Isaiah 46:9
Rather than affirming his oneness for millennia and then suddenly telling his people to believe something different, why didn’t God say he was tripartite all along? Did he not want to confuse the Israelites’ strict monotheism?
But isn’t it even more confusing to neglect to tell them about it for a long time and then suddenly spring it on them?
Many Jews reject Christianity because they see the Trinity as polytheism.
Far more likely is that the Trinity was invented by later Christians in response to their need for a structure for God that could accommodate their beliefs about the divinity of Jesus.
Jesus certainly fits the criterion of a god the Jews had not known, and thus by the Bible’s own standard, they were obligated to reject him (Deuteronomy 13:1-3).
