Posts by deegee

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Do Jehovah's witnesses take therapy?

by Gokumonkey in

i know two jehovah's witnesses couple.

the husband had a rough upbringing.

his father left him at a young age, leaving his mom and himself to take care of his siblings.

deegee

The husband had a rough upbringing. His father left him at a young age, leaving his mom and himself to take care of his siblings. He had to learn things faster then any normal child……..The wife how ever had a hard life. As a child her mother left her for a time and father didn't pay much attention to her. She was also molested at a young age --------Gokumonkey

https://www.samhsa.gov/capt/practicing-effective-prevention/prevention-behavioral-health/adverse-childhood-experiences :

ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES (ACEs) are stressful or traumatic events, including abuse and neglect. They may also include household dysfunction such as witnessing domestic violence or growing up with family members who have substance use disorders. ACEs are strongly related to the development and prevalence of a wide range of health problems throughout a person’s lifespan, including those associated with substance misuse.

ACEs include:

· Physical abuse

· Sexual abuse

· Emotional abuse

· Physical neglect

· Emotional neglect

· Mother treated violently

· Substance misuse within household

· Household mental illness

· Parental separation or divorce

· Incarcerated household member

· Death of a parent

https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/acestudy/about.html :

As the number of ACEs increases so does the risk for the following*:

Dose-response describes the change in an outcome (e.g., alcoholism) associated with differing levels of exposure (or doses) to a stressor (e.g. ACEs). A graded dose-response means that as the dose of the stressor increases the intensity of the outcome also increases.

· Alcoholism and alcohol abuse

· Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease

· Depression

· Fetal death

· Health-related quality of life

· Illicit drug use

· Ischemic heart disease

· Liver disease

· Poor work performance

· Financial stress

· Risk for intimate partner violence

· Multiple sexual partners

· Sexually transmitted diseases

· Smoking

· Suicide attempts

· Unintended pregnancies

· Early initiation of smoking

· Early initiation of sexual activity

· Adolescent pregnancy

· Risk for sexual violence

· Poor academic achievement

*This list is not exhaustive. For more outcomes see selected journal publications(https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/acestudy/journal.html).

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Do Jehovah's witnesses take therapy?

by Gokumonkey in

i know two jehovah's witnesses couple.

the husband had a rough upbringing.

his father left him at a young age, leaving his mom and himself to take care of his siblings.

deegee

Now grown man and married he developed a porn addiction and even went to strip clubs and his wife didn't know of this --------Gokumonkey

Addictions, (whether substance or non-substance) are usually a sign of mental health issues. People often resort to certain behaviours to solve/deal with unresolved internal/psychological issues.

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Do Jehovah's witnesses take therapy?

by Gokumonkey in

i know two jehovah's witnesses couple.

the husband had a rough upbringing.

his father left him at a young age, leaving his mom and himself to take care of his siblings.

deegee

Do Jehovah's witnesses take therapy?

by Gokumonkey in

i know two jehovah's witnesses couple.

the husband had a rough upbringing.

his father left him at a young age, leaving his mom and himself to take care of his siblings.

deegee

WT 1996, p. 30, "Questions from Readers":

"Some, suffering severely from schizophrenia, bipolar disorder…and other distressing disorders, have been able to live fairly normal lives after obtaining the right professional help, (but) in many cases the patient does not have a severe mental disorder but has difficulty coping with some situation in life. However, it is the Bible that gives the most effective help in handling the difficult problems of life......The Bible encourages such ones to call on the Elders for help and counsel......"The prayer of faith will make the indisposed one well." "

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Do Jehovah's witnesses take therapy?

by Gokumonkey in

i know two jehovah's witnesses couple.

the husband had a rough upbringing.

his father left him at a young age, leaving his mom and himself to take care of his siblings.

deegee

WT 1993, p. 13, "Trust in Jehovah":

“Worldly counselors and psychologists can never hope to approach the wisdom and understanding that Jehovah displays.......Rather than lean on the wisdom of prominent men of the world or on our own uninformed emotions, let us look to Jehovah, his Word and the Elders in the Christian congregation for advice."

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Set the record straight!

by Colinconfused in

i would like to state publicly, on this forum, i no longer hold the views i had a year ago.. with much thought, research, study and logical examination i have come to a better understanding of my beliefs and where i stand on all these issues.. i'm very happy to announce i have returned to healthful teaching of the holy scriptures and i firmly believe that the governing body of jehovah's witnesses is the faithful slave.. sorry if i have contibuted to any kind of stumbling and know that if i can turn things around then there's hope for all who come to there sence.. phill4:6,7.

deegee

I firmly believe that the Governing body of Jehovah's witnesses is the faithful slave ~ Colinconfuzzed

They didn't even believe that about themselves when Jesus supposedly chose the WT as his only spokesperson in 1919.

The initial belief was that their founder Charles Taze Russell was the FDS. That was subsequently changed to the 144,000 and more recently to just the governing body.

It looks like both you and the WT are confused - Colinconfuzzed & WTconfuzzed

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Set the record straight!

by Colinconfused in

i would like to state publicly, on this forum, i no longer hold the views i had a year ago.. with much thought, research, study and logical examination i have come to a better understanding of my beliefs and where i stand on all these issues.. i'm very happy to announce i have returned to healthful teaching of the holy scriptures and i firmly believe that the governing body of jehovah's witnesses is the faithful slave.. sorry if i have contibuted to any kind of stumbling and know that if i can turn things around then there's hope for all who come to there sence.. phill4:6,7.

deegee

People have been taught for so long that God wrote the Bible and that he communicates with persons that to believe otherwise frightens them.

It frightens people to acknowledge that God did not write the Bible.

It frightens people to acknowledge that God does not speak to anyone.

It frightens people to acknowledge that death is the end of them. Belief helps people feel good about their mortality.

Some people just can't wrap their heads around these things.

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Set the record straight!

by Colinconfused in

i would like to state publicly, on this forum, i no longer hold the views i had a year ago.. with much thought, research, study and logical examination i have come to a better understanding of my beliefs and where i stand on all these issues.. i'm very happy to announce i have returned to healthful teaching of the holy scriptures and i firmly believe that the governing body of jehovah's witnesses is the faithful slave.. sorry if i have contibuted to any kind of stumbling and know that if i can turn things around then there's hope for all who come to there sence.. phill4:6,7.

deegee

There, there Colinconfused we understand. Cognitive dissonance is too much for some people to handle.

I ended up in the JW religion because of a JW's cognitive dissonance.

In hindsight I realized that she couldn't deal with the failed 1975 end of the world prediction or the fact that JWs destroy families, among other things, so she doubled down which resulted in my becoming a victim of childhood indoctrination.

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The WatchTower conductor lied on stage

by Isambard Crater in

on sunday morning in the watchtower study, a "study" who was their for the 1st time put his hand up and said; "i have a question.

when the paragraph says give up everything, it doesn't really mean give up everything like the pearl merchant, does it, like be willing to lose my modest house, cheap car and other basics i own?

i mean, that sounds a bit much".. the watchtower conductor said in response; "no, it's just a parable and it doesn't mean give up everything.

deegee

Wasn’t Jesus the one who told the parable of the pearl of great price?

What Jesus meant by this parable is evident by the way he and his disciples lived their lives – THEY GAVE UP EVERYTHING:

Matthew 6:19-21, 25-34; 7:21; 13:44-46; 19:21-30

Mark 8:36-37; 10: 13-25, 28 - 30

Luke 6:24-25; 9:23-24, 59 – 62; 12:22-34; 14:33; 18:28

Who wants to be poor like Jesus?

Apparently the WT study conductor is realizing that this is not sensible.

Christianity, like every other religion, is only popular to the point where it gives something to the adherents. When it asks something that seems unreasonable, then common survival sense kicks in. If Christians were to embrace the full message of Jesus they would have no money or a career, they would be sworn to poverty.

This message has not, for the most part, been overwhelmingly popular among people who call themselves Jesus’ followers. Christian denominations have instead opted to pick and choose from among the surviving words of Jesus, selecting the elements of his message that they find to be personally palatable.

The majority of believers are following the party line of their particular church and if it doesn’t suit them, they change churches. Each church leader has to not only attract new customers but also hang on to the ones s/he already has – tread cautiously less they walk away seems to be the policy.

There are no real Christians except for nuns, monks (and the Shakers), when it comes to these radical sayings of Jesus. No wonder people like Joel Osteen have become so popular:

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“For God so love the world …

by deegee in

... that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him shall not be destroyed but have everlasting life” (john 3:16).. it just occurred to me that if parents were to follow this scripture, they would put their children to death if their children don’t obey/agree with them.

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deegee

Simon,

?????

So which examples of God are we supposed to follow?

I thought we were supposed to imitate God/Jesus?