David_Jay,
Did you read Terry's comments above?
TERRY WAS RAPED WHILE IN PRISON! HE ENDED UP IN PRISON BECAUSE OF HIS BELIEF IN GOD.
Terry:
I prayed constantly...........I read my Bible and memorized verses and went over the "meaning" constantly.
I was a sponge and all things God were soaking into me for survival and to stave off panic and terror.
Once I arrived in Federal prison and joined about 40 other Brothers, we had 5 meetings each week and special study sessions on the side.
I had become a TRUE BELIEVER.
I was actually a fanatic.
The letters I wrote read like a wide-eyed cult member in every way.
There's no doubt in my mind--I was talking to God (inside my head) day and night and my sense of His presence was palpable.
Then I was sexually attacked and I went into a kind of recoil and shock.
Even though Jehovah had obviously deserted me at the moment I cried out to Him for help--I made excuses.
David_Jay:
God is not like a fairy that grants wishes.
WOW! Pity Terry didn't know beforehand that God doesn't help persons and that a relationship with God is one-sided:
Terry:
Because I was there for Him and He wasn't there for me - I slowly turned my anger on myself rather than blame Almighty up above.
I was a walking, talking case study in cognitive dissonance.
David_Jay:
........that led him (Terry) to a conclusion about God that made him believe that God doesn't listen, and that prayers are ineffective.
HOWEVER
David_Jay:
God is not like a fairy that grants wishes.
?????????????
So how is Terry or anyone for that matter supposed to know that God is listening and prayer is effective if God doesn't help when persons ask for help?
What's the point of prayer then?
David_Jay:
Jews and early Christians recited the Psalms as prayers three times a day and a fouth before retiring at night. They used an assigned cycle to cover all 150 over a quick period of time and restart again, and had a selected library for needs like mourning, personal requests, sickness, intercessions, thanksgiving, etc. Rarely was a prayer spontaneous.
So God will only listen to your prayer if it is not spontaneous?
David_Jay:
Paul, at Romans, was saying that these words were the Spirit of God saying the words that God wanted us to say yet which were too great for us mortals to come up with. So we could learn from reciting them and didn't need to worry that God didn't listen when we used certain ones to ask for help or requests.
So the Spirit of God is interceding on our behalf, saying the words on our behalf that God wants us to say including asking for help or requests.
YET,
David_Jay:
God is not like a fairy that grants wishes.
So God doesn't even answer his own prayers?