Posts by DStanley

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August WT: DF'ing renamed "Removed." AKA: GB re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic

by WingCommander in

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so: the mystery has been clarified as to more "new light" / clarifications of decades old doctrine and procedure.

august watchtower has finally been leaked.

disfellowshipping?

DStanley

It's emotional and spiritual blackmail. Holding a gun to your head and stating that "You have free will to leave any time you want, but you loose your family if you don't decide the way we tell you," is NOT free will at all! It's forced compliance thru threats which they WILL follow thru with. Hence, human rights violations.

After watching Leah Remini's doc, I was telling my mom (VERY devout JW) that some see DFing as emotional blackmail. She argued it was not, you are making the choice. So I gave her a real life example. I said you know mom, let's say you want to leave the town we live in. You are done here. It's fine you can leave anytime you want. But if you leave you will never be able to see me or talk to me again. Or your grandkids. Or your great grandkids. Because we are staying here. We like it here. We like the lake and the weather. We like the museums and entertainment. We like the school systems. So we are going to stay. But you can go, here are your tickets. And I placed imaginary tickets on her leg.

The look on her face was priceless. She swallowed a lump. I then said, to ease her mind, cuz I'm PIMO, I'm not saying that *I* think it's emotional blackmail, but this is why some say that it is.

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So a JW can date an unbelieving person...

by silentbuddha in

but the entire congregation is not to be informed or mark the person.

the only repercussions are that the individual who is aware of it can decide to "mark" them and not go to the local club or bar with the individual, but they are still obligated to go door to door in the ministry with them, and even speak to them at the kn as if nothing is wrong and not feel obligated to tell anyone else?

this is crazy.. so they are also basically saying that a person can carry on a romantic (but none sexual) relationship with an unbeliever and still go out in service and participate in meetings?

DStanley

I was told as a teenager in the 90s by an elder that you could be df'd for dating a wordly person. I remember thinking at the time how is that a df'ing matter, but I felt like the elder was giving me a very direct threat, even though I wasn't even old enough to date at the time.