Hey One Finger, thanks for the heads up, for dialogue can you give some references to the articles? Thanks
JakeM2012
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Now that is is some sick s*^t!
by OneFingerSalute inso the bible reading talks about some "good" appointed man who valued the office more than his wife and turned her over to the crowd to be repeatedly raped until she died.. then the sick hoser dismembers her and sends the body parts around the nation.
later the "faithful" jews from eleven tribes go up to do battle with the one "bad" tribe at god's okay and suffers defeat...twice!
finally the third time god lets them win.. wt says that we have to realize that women were expendable in those days.
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Has Anyone Read This Book?
by berrygerry instumbled upon this book on ebay.
anyone read it?.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/jehovahs-witnesses-and-the-united-nations-how-the-watchtower-society-fooled-mi-/381046838260?pt=lh_defaultdomain_71&hash=item58b82953f4.
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It's Over Johnny....The Demise of Jehovah's Witnesses
by ctrwtf ini think i've mentioned before that from time to time my commute on the bqe takes me past the old factory buildings and the soon to be former headquarters building.
i was struck the other day with how shabby they've become.
even 25 columbia heights, still currently occupied, its facade is filthy.
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JakeM2012
I agree with a few others' observations, that apathy is a major problem within the ranks of JW's. It appears apathy is affecting C.O.'s, elders, pioneers,etc; people in the "forefront". (A jw verbiage term)
The recent cash grab from the congregations was a first of its kind. The congregations cash account and how the congregations funded maintenance, repair and replacement, etc has always been the "congregations" responsibility. The individuals' and the congregations' donations have been voluntary, not demanded or outright taken. My wife's family, who are currently active, were talking about the repeated letters from WTBTS asking for money. The family had asked, "Do you think they (WTBTS) are having financial problems?" So it is a matter of discussion just from WT's constant prodding.
Leaving Brooklyn? I think that the WTBTS had a presence in New York City that was noteworthy with the WATCHTOWER sign with time and temperature to even be mentioned on local tours to people from around the globe. That recognition is being given up for JW.org?
I agree that there is a retreat, on many fronts; basically a social withdrawal or social isolation. It would seem that there is a calculated "winding down" of the organization, as if "they" are planning on going out of business, while out of the other side of their mouths "Jehovah is speeding things up".
I have commented before that it seems the WTBTS is "cutting tail" and running away from the "light bearers" they used to be, having a quick fix answer for everything. As Matthew 5:15 says, "No one lights a lamp and then puts it under a basket. Instead, a lamp is placed on a stand, where it gives light to everyone in the house..16 In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven."
What WTBTS will emerge as is yet to be seen, but the glory days are over for the time being.
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People calling me... >.<
by Garrett inoh my god!.
it is currently almost midnight where i live and i have now been spammed 3 times in a row by an unknown number.
first my home phone and then my cell phone.
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JakeM2012
I hate getting those calls also, That's why for years I didn't delete the "friends" phone numbers.
However, as seen in this clip, Those late night phone calls can get you in trouble.
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People calling me... >.<
by Garrett inoh my god!.
it is currently almost midnight where i live and i have now been spammed 3 times in a row by an unknown number.
first my home phone and then my cell phone.
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JakeM2012
You sound like Madd Maxx,
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What is the most current information on the Ricco indictments of Don Adams re: Menlo Park?
by TerryWalstrom indid this quietly go away?.
details, please.
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Terry, I'm curious also, I was reading old news from
Military Boy, Paul Koehler, who was the C.O. sounds like the ass of asses that I've ever seen for CO's. He "evidently" used his military training to physically and emotionally bully the elders to get his way, ummm WTBTS way. Hummm, just doesn't sound Christlike. Could it be Satan? (Church Lady Voice)
Paul Koehler and Steve Misterfield disqualified the elders because they let a sister that wanted to stay in Menlo Park Congregation stay and not be "transferred" to another congregation. The court documents say that is like sentencing someone to ten years in prison for littering.
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My experience living with Jehavah's Witnesses in Colombia.
by dpw41 inin 2012, i met a girl online who lived colombia and who happened to be a jehovah's witness.
we got to know each other for about 8 months before i went down to see them.
i was there for 6 weeks during my first stay.
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JakeM2012
DPW41,
I've lived in Colombia, Buenos Aires, Mexico City, and El Salvador, while building branches for the WTBTS. While living in Central and South America I noticed some behavior, ideas, and attitudes of publishers that didn't seem correct with my understanding of "The Truth" as known in the U.S.A but at the time it seemed minimal and at the time, I did not understand TTATT. It was not until I had some exposure to the Spanish Congregations in the U.S.A that I realized that all was not well in Jehovah-dome JW-Witness world in the foreign languages and their radical thinking.
I do not doubt your story at all. But, there is a big difference in the extremes you will encounter in the congregations of JW's on an international scale. From the young women I knew in Columbia, and your willingness to pay so much for the air line tickets, your friend was probably a FOX, am I not right?
I did run into families that did everything they could to get me hooked on their daughters, thinking we would marry, and their daughters would be U.S. Citizens and then they have a ticket to the U.S. But, I was a bit smarter than that. But they were beautiful.
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Goodbye and thank you.
by wallievase init's come time for me to leave.
i honestly feel at this point continuing to visit this site and others like it is starting to hinder me from moving on by keeping all the feelings of pain, resentment, regret, etc fresh.. i haven't posted a lot since i have been on here but to those of you that replied when i did, i appreciate it very much.
you helped me through a very rough time that is affecting me to this day.
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21 Years as an Elder, 5 as an MS, I will never be that guy again.
by James Jack ini was deleted as the cobe after i let my adult child move back home and he admitted that he fornicated under my roof while my wife and i where away on a rbc project.
of course the elder mode in me kicked him out of the house.. the elders moved quickly to remove me because i was too involved in "theocractic activities", i had neglected my adult son.. i accepted this primarily because i didn't want to serve with a boe that did not want me.
i was devastated however because it was the only life i knew.
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GB says, "Our way of worship will soon be altered."
by Separation of Powers inmy mom called me yesterday to ask how i was doing.
i hadn't seen her in a while, so it was nice to hear her voice.
we went through the motions of jw small talk and then she started telling me about her co visit from last week.
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There was a C.O. that said 15 years ago, "We (meaning WTBTS know's) know that there are things that we must change, please be patient with us while we make these changes for the better". "(+/-)"
My question is, "Have the WTBTS "advisors" or who ever is really running this corporation told them that IF their followers, who are increasing in discontented followers, believe there will be changes in the future that they can maintain better control over the followers/believers?
This would be Similar to an alcoholic, wife abusing, white undershirt wearing husband, that is cheating on his wife promising her, "I promise things are going to change" and the woman will hang on and stay around?
The WTBTS has always marketed and sold "uncertainty" just like a weather forecaster does, (although the weather forecasters have a stellar reputation compared to the WTBTS), and WTBTS are just twisting it a bit saying there are changes coming, Nothing New Here. Same pricks in charge. Same BS.