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  Child Abuse must be getting out of hand if they're addressing it...

  by thedepressedsoul in

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  i'm referring to the video that was uploaded where they finally mentioned the child abuse issue.

  we all kinda guessed that if they ever addressed it they'd blame it on the media and apostates.

  well, looks like we were spot on.

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  As several have mentioned, the WTBTS, does not need to lie, they could put an end to this immediately, by showing responsibility for the children in their congregations. They could immediately stop the crap about two witnesses.

  They could instruct the elders this weekend, "Don't call the legal department until you have contacted the police". In this day and age with forensic science, special investigators within the police departments that know the behavior of sexual predators, the two witness rule from Leviticus? is obsolete, and further, there is rarely a second witness in child abuse, that' s how predators roll.

  I had read an article about The Boy Scouts and they turned their organization around within two years, and now they are considered an exemplary organization with more than adequate controls to protect the children. What is so hard about this folks???? Nothing, but with WTBTS, their arrogance will be their demise.

  Interesting that some are commenting about "New Light" that will abolish the two witness rule, and when they do, they will never admit to changing it because they were wrong and the critics were correct. They will just continue to bash the "apostates".
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  Governing Body Member Stephan Lett Lies On JW.TV

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i thought it would be important to clearly point in the recent talk by governing body member stephan lett, that he did in fact deliberately lie concerning what he described as lies and false information by apostates, concerning the organization being permissive toward people in the organization who had been involved in pedophilia.

  the truth of the matter is thats exactly what the organization has been doing and perhaps for a long time.

  the recent candace conti law suit where she was awarded 28 million dollars was levied against the wts for its irresponsible behavior by the elders who gave no notification of the accused jonathan kendrick that he had been charged with pedophilia and spent months in jail for his actions .

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  I hate liars. I've got a brother who is pathological, narcissists, compulsive, liar, who is in good standing in the congregation and is currently working at War Wick. Oh, the blessings and privileges of lying in Jehovah's Service.

  I think it ballsy to address the apostates "lying" about pediphiles. WTBTS is still in their denial stage, but they are talking about it on their JW network which is addressing it to a point, even though dishonestly. But, perhaps inadvertently, informing people who may not know about it about the situations.

  They are feeling/enjoying the bashing power over the "apostates". As pointed out the news media picked the improprieties up, judges have picked up on it, lawyers have seen the situation for what it is, and all of this group are not "apostates".

  Interestingly, it was an assembly where the speaker just kept on using a hatchet when speaking of apostates, and the hate he displayed was obvious. He mentioned that one mature sister had unknowingly read some material on an "apostate" web site, and it wrecked her faith in a few hours. "The elders have been trying to assist her but she has shipwrecked her faith, by entertaining apostates websites.

  This made me curious to investigate the "lies" with the reasoning, "If we have the truth, how can the lie of an apostate wreck a mature sisters faith in hours?". End of story, I'm out, and consider the WTBTS liars.
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  Now that is is some sick s*^t!

  by OneFingerSalute in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so the bible reading talks about some "good" appointed man who valued the office more than his wife and turned her over to the crowd to be repeatedly raped until she died.. then the sick hoser dismembers her and sends the body parts around the nation.

  later the "faithful" jews from eleven tribes go up to do battle with the one "bad" tribe at god's okay and suffers defeat...twice!

  finally the third time god lets them win.. wt says that we have to realize that women were expendable in those days.

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  Hey One Finger, thanks for the heads up, for dialogue can you give some references to the articles? Thanks
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  Has Anyone Read This Book?

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  stumbled upon this book on ebay.

  anyone read it?.

  http://www.ebay.ca/itm/jehovahs-witnesses-and-the-united-nations-how-the-watchtower-society-fooled-mi-/381046838260?pt=lh_defaultdomain_71&hash=item58b82953f4.

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  Marking
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  It's Over Johnny....The Demise of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by ctrwtf in

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  2. friends

  i think i've mentioned before that from time to time my commute on the bqe takes me past the old factory buildings and the soon to be former headquarters building.

  i was struck the other day with how shabby they've become.

  even 25 columbia heights, still currently occupied, its facade is filthy.

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  I agree with a few others' observations, that apathy is a major problem within the ranks of JW's. It appears apathy is affecting C.O.'s, elders, pioneers,etc; people in the "forefront". (A jw verbiage term)

  The recent cash grab from the congregations was a first of its kind. The congregations cash account and how the congregations funded maintenance, repair and replacement, etc has always been the "congregations" responsibility. The individuals' and the congregations' donations have been voluntary, not demanded or outright taken. My wife's family, who are currently active, were talking about the repeated letters from WTBTS asking for money. The family had asked, "Do you think they (WTBTS) are having financial problems?" So it is a matter of discussion just from WT's constant prodding.

  Leaving Brooklyn? I think that the WTBTS had a presence in New York City that was noteworthy with the WATCHTOWER sign with time and temperature to even be mentioned on local tours to people from around the globe. That recognition is being given up for JW.org?

  I agree that there is a retreat, on many fronts; basically a social withdrawal or social isolation. It would seem that there is a calculated "winding down" of the organization, as if "they" are planning on going out of business, while out of the other side of their mouths "Jehovah is speeding things up".

  I have commented before that it seems the WTBTS is "cutting tail" and running away from the "light bearers" they used to be, having a quick fix answer for everything. As Matthew 5:15 says, "No one lights a lamp and then puts it under a basket. Instead, a lamp is placed on a stand, where it gives light to everyone in the house..16 In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven."

  
  

  What WTBTS will emerge as is yet to be seen, but the glory days are over for the time being.
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  People calling me... >.<

  by Garrett in

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  2. friends

  oh my god!.

  it is currently almost midnight where i live and i have now been spammed 3 times in a row by an unknown number.

  first my home phone and then my cell phone.

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  I hate getting those calls also, That's why for years I didn't delete the "friends" phone numbers.

  However, as seen in this clip, Those late night phone calls can get you in trouble.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gqQYuipF7U
  
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  People calling me... >.<

  by Garrett in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  oh my god!.

  it is currently almost midnight where i live and i have now been spammed 3 times in a row by an unknown number.

  first my home phone and then my cell phone.

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  You sound like Madd Maxx,

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYAYnCAQRMY
  
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  What is the most current information on the Ricco indictments of Don Adams re: Menlo Park?

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  did this quietly go away?.

  details, please.

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  Terry, I'm curious also, I was reading old news from

  https://jwleaks.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/menlo-park-congregation-of-jehovahs-witnesses-lawsuit-cv10-3907.pdf

  Military Boy, Paul Koehler, who was the C.O. sounds like the ass of asses that I've ever seen for CO's. He "evidently" used his military training to physically and emotionally bully the elders to get his way, ummm WTBTS way. Hummm, just doesn't sound Christlike. Could it be Satan? (Church Lady Voice)

  Paul Koehler and Steve Misterfield disqualified the elders because they let a sister that wanted to stay in Menlo Park Congregation stay and not be "transferred" to another congregation. The court documents say that is like sentencing someone to ten years in prison for littering.
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  My experience living with Jehavah's Witnesses in Colombia.

  by dpw41 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in 2012, i met a girl online who lived colombia and who happened to be a jehovah's witness.

  we got to know each other for about 8 months before i went down to see them.

  i was there for 6 weeks during my first stay.

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  DPW41,

  I've lived in Colombia, Buenos Aires, Mexico City, and El Salvador, while building branches for the WTBTS. While living in Central and South America I noticed some behavior, ideas, and attitudes of publishers that didn't seem correct with my understanding of "The Truth" as known in the U.S.A but at the time it seemed minimal and at the time, I did not understand TTATT. It was not until I had some exposure to the Spanish Congregations in the U.S.A that I realized that all was not well in Jehovah-dome JW-Witness world in the foreign languages and their radical thinking.

  I do not doubt your story at all. But, there is a big difference in the extremes you will encounter in the congregations of JW's on an international scale. From the young women I knew in Columbia, and your willingness to pay so much for the air line tickets, your friend was probably a FOX, am I not right?

  I did run into families that did everything they could to get me hooked on their daughters, thinking we would marry, and their daughters would be U.S. Citizens and then they have a ticket to the U.S. But, I was a bit smarter than that. But they were beautiful.
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  Goodbye and thank you.

  by wallievase in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's come time for me to leave.

  i honestly feel at this point continuing to visit this site and others like it is starting to hinder me from moving on by keeping all the feelings of pain, resentment, regret, etc fresh.. i haven't posted a lot since i have been on here but to those of you that replied when i did, i appreciate it very much.

  you helped me through a very rough time that is affecting me to this day.

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  ~ Henry David Thoreau