Posts by JakeM2012

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Leaked - Video tape inside Watchtower HQ of protest Nov 5, 2017

by Listener in

i saw this on jw reddit and thought, okay that will just be one of the protesters videotaping near their security entrance but it's really from inside the hq's.

i doubt the org.

will be happy that this was taped and leaked.https://rutube.ru/video/2dbc8185062524a41ed8c9e2117ca39d/.

JakeM2012

I'll bet the town of Warwick is so excited that the JW's Headquarters is there. Great neighbors.

And that's pretty pompous naming the road king's highway or whatever.

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Let J.W.'s keep their "two-witnesses" rule..................

by The Fall Guy in

................for all their sinners - but make it mandatory that all j.w.

alleged criminals are promptly reported to the relevant authorities.

problem solved.

JakeM2012

WTBTS also says that, if two separate witnesses reported similar conduct on two different occasions a judicial committee can convict. They fail to even go by their own rules.

I think it is interesting that the U.S. government has used $17 million for hush money on sexual abuse accusation against its congressmen and senators and people are now demanding to know who that tax payer's money was paid to protect. $17 million pales in comparison to what WTBTS has paid out.

WTBTS wants to ignore the problem, put a band-aid on it, and kick it down the road. They would do better to open Pandora's box and get it over with. If they weren't busy and mentally occupied with this distraction perhaps they could come up with a new direction for the organization. Beating the drum that the world is going to come to an end and advertise with carts is not getting them anywhere. 95,000 hours to get one convert?

It would be easy to find one or two GB members to label as an apostate, have them be the fall guy, come clean on the matter, start reporting the problems, change direction, say that Jehovah's spirit was being withheld from his organization. The Boy Scouts had a problem at one time and now they have come clean and are admired because of their stance.

Maybe they need to take some lessons from Joel Olstein's sermons, he seems to be doing great.

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Happy Thanksgiving 2017

by EverApostate in

once upon a time, as a jw, i was afraid to buy turkey during thanksgiving time.

while attending the thursday night ministry school meeting (on thanksgiving day), i was cautious not to mention the word thanksgiving, for fear of bringing reproach to bigj.. now, free at last, my happy thanksgiving wishes to everyone who celebrate this holiday..

JakeM2012

This is one Holiday that I never could wrap my mind around to understand why it was so bad. The cheapest price on Turkey meat is in November, what is wrong with purchasing something on sale? Many grocery stores will give a turkey away with a certain amount of purchases. This is one holiday that all the family members are off for four days and they can get together. There is no tree involved, special decorations, or gift giving. It is just a family or friends gathering, a meal, and some football. What is wrong with a day of thanks and appreciation? I believe this was something that Rutherford came up with to isolate witnesses from the mainstream.

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My Cognitive Dissonance is Eating Me Alive (Intro Post)

by pometerre21 in

jw
friends

i've been lurking here for a couple of weeks now.

i'm starting to "awaken" and it is all that has been occupying my mind.

i've always, always had doubts, some of which i expressed to family members who always had the same replies:.

JakeM2012

Welcome to this forum. I look forward to hearing more about your journey. At first it can be overwhelming but hang in there.

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How To Fade Away Cleanly?

by SplaneThisToMe in

jw
friends

this is my first post and hopefully i can get some advice and input.

i have been actively involved with the organization for a little over 10 years now.

i began studying in high school, got baptized and my family fortunately did not.

JakeM2012

You are depressed. You have seen a doctor, if you like. Nothing more and without any explanation. Move if you can or work out of town alot. Do not talk about the religion to anyone. Keep your mouth shut. If someone asks, say that You continue to pray, read the Bible and keep up with the latest publications and say nothing more than that. It takes very few words to ensnare yourself if you don't want to be disfellowshipped.

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Roy Moore

by ducatijoe in

so... after seeing men who abuse children in the organization, i am out.

however this shit is in the "world" too.

my fellow alabama voters are still behind roy moore.

JakeM2012

There is a war going on between the parties. Good ol Al Franken has been drug into it with photo proof while the woman slept. I always thought he was gay.

Oh he wasn't a Senator at the time. So, It's ok. But the Democrats have always been such high moral characters and examples. Bill Clinton was such an example for politicians today.

I question the timing of the accusations. Roy has been a judge for most of his life. Why do these women come out now days before the election? Whether true or false, I believe it is Politically motivated and organized by someone. Of course I've seen bodies of elders go at each other like this, so its nothing new.

I wish some men would come out and say they were raped by Frederika Wilson. I think it's time for term limits before the crazy house goes totally insane.

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Herd Spreading BS...

by Alfred in

my wife and i visited a local flea market this morning and found this herd that spreads bⱷꙇꙇ ꙅꚕꙶiꚍ... it's actually a broadcaster that spreads cow manure (or seeds i suppose)... much like herd on jw broadcasting sure feeds us a load of crap... .

JakeM2012

I've Herd about that before.

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Baptismal Q`S asked in the year 1960 ,anyone ? Contrasted to what Q`s they ask now

by smiddy3 in

i`m just curious as to what /who i dedicated/baptized my life to in 1960 compared to who or what j.w.`s are being baptized/dedicating their life into this present day ?.

and what scenarios this could lead into ?

would my baptism still be valid ?

JakeM2012

Baptism questions today: Do you have a pulse?

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The Sin of Omission

by stuckinarut2 in

have we heard of the sin of omission?.

it refers to a situation where someone deliberately withholds some relevant or pertinent information from an investigation or enquiry.. in a criminal situation someone may purposely neglect to mention he was present, or involved in something.

it may lead the other person to a conclusion that is not accurate...and yet the person under investigation never actually lied.. now think of a jw "judicial committee" .

JakeM2012

Sure, you can also be disfellowshipped for lying and slander. It's rare. Who could cast the first stone?

I bought a life insurance annuity one time. Then I realized it was not in my best interest but for the salesman's interest. Swindler's believe that if you are so stupid to fall for their scheme then you don't deserve to keep your money. Maybe that's what the GB thinks while they laugh all the way to the bank and tour the world.

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Fasten Your Seatbelts - The Crazy Has Started (Also, bring the Koolaid)

by berrygerry in

from facebook:just saw my jw mother after not seeing her for more than 2 years.

when i do see her, it is brief, she never asks about my life, doesn't ask about my 4 children her grandchildren, doesn't ask about my grandchildren...her great grandchildren, she doesn't ask about my other 2 brothers that she is also alienated from, she doesn't ask about my brothers family.

she doesn't talk about the jw/org either.

JakeM2012

Yes, they said forty years ago that we had entered the "Warning" work. Nothing new. The animals are gathered and in the ark just waiting on Jehovah to close and seal the door and bring the rain. One time they even said that Jehovah was closing the door to the Ark. Better hurry up and get baptized, and we can only study with you for six months.

Oh, no, they could be in the ark waiting for rain for years and decades, (a day for a year). Maybe you could take some food over there on the January 2nd. Or, Just set up a Pizza delivery from Domino's to the Kingdom Hall.

Funny how the end was delayed to gather more sincere hearted people. But, they never cared about all the sincere hearted people that rotted (left got tired, died, etc) waiting for the end. I guess the Ark has a backdoor after all. Well, don't let it hit you on your way out.