Posts by joao

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Family division

by joao in

the worst part of my experience of getting rid of the shackles of wt is not the shunning.

i can live with that.

if people don't want to talk to me, there are many more who do!

The worst part of my experience of getting rid of the shackles of WT is not the shunning. I can live with that. If people don't want to talk to me, there are many more who do! That's how you know who your friends really are! The worst part is when your own family, wife and daughter, keep wanting to waste their time, family time, attending meetings and not helping doing something as a family and don't allow you to be the Head of a good Christian family. This is what I really struggle with.

Even though I'm trying to take it calmly, it's really tough!

I know that it all results from their fear of being shunned and put aside if they leave. But they don't want to because of emotional and social reasons, not because of their love for God.

This is just sad...

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What Name Does the New Testament Emphasize - Jehovah or Jesus?

by Vanderhoven7 in

it seems to me scripturally speaking, that jehovah's witnesses are emphasizing the wrong name.. it should be jesus, not jehovah.

who is the way, the truth and the life?

(john 14:6).

joao

That's the reason why God's name doesn't appear anywhere in the 5000 copies of the NT, except for two occurrences of the short form in Revelation. Only in the NWT was it "artificially" introduced about 237 times, if I remember correctly. Even so, the name Jesus appears more than 300 times, again, if I'm not mistaken. This says quite a lot about the subject!

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Anyone else heard this?

by BoogerMan in

the other day, i chatted to an elderly woman and her daughter who was about 45-50. total strangers.. we were discussing covid when the daughter said, "my neighbor studies with jw's, and the jw's told her 3 months before the virus started, that they had to stop going from door to door because something was coming.".

i've never heard anything like this before - have you?.

joao

That's an easy one! Here in Portugal, our government, after knowing about what was going on in China and one or two other European countries, said it wouldn't reach us! But I could see they were wrong... And only some time after did the virus cross the Atlantic. So, am I a prophet or just someone who can use his head to think? The WT loves to take advantage of events to prove them right but it's very easy to predict anything AFTER it has occurred. It's just a matter of distorting facts!

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"Why would anyone build a house in this system of things?"

by Queequeg in

recent posts about elders telling people to quit their jobs etc.

reminded me of this.. when i was in my early twenties i decided that i really wanted to build a house (id always wanted to, even as a kid).

i justified my "selfish" desire in my own mind by thinking that once we were living in it we'd have more freedom and skills to volunteer to do things like quickbuilds and international construction (actually, it really did work out that way).

joao

Why would anyone need new HQ and magnificent cinema studios in this system?!

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Did they read this today at the meeting?

by Jerryh in

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joao

I'm not sure that when they say that "what is said in those messages applies to all of God’s people today" means that they are admitting that the NT was written to all, including the non-anointed JWs. Their use of language is very tricky... BTW, didn't Jesus say that he needed to convey his message to the non-believersso that they could be saved? So, didn't that mean that the NT was written for all humanity too?

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A little boy will lead them [i.e. the wolf...the leopard...the lion. Is. 11:6-9]

by Wonderment in

don't know if this subject has been touched on here before, but i have wondered at times, how much literalness can be applied to this messianic prophecy within a paradise setting (assuming one probable interpretation of is.

the wt presents a mental image of complete harmony between animal and mankind.. does this biblical passage somehow indicate that existing wild beasts will feed on vegetation alone.

animals are not spoken of living forever in the bible.

joao

Never bought that one either!

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Charles Russell Apologetics

by Vanderhoven7 in

just ran across a russell apologetic site that i think people will find interesting as well as informative.. ron day writes:.

charles taze russell never “expected” christ to return in 1874. before 1876, russell had rejected the date setting of the second adventists.

in 1876, he accepted barbour’s conclusion that christ had returned in 1874. yes, he died in 1916, still holding to the belief that christ had returned in 1874.. until 1904, russell accepted barbour’s belief that armageddon (the time of trouble) had begun in 1874, and that it was to end in 1914. he rejected this in 1904, about ten years before 1914. in 1904, he came to understand that the time of trouble begins after the ending of the times of the gentiles.. russell, however, never believed in the kind of armageddon that is preached by the jehovah’s witnesses.

joao

Interesting, very interesting. Thanks!

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I made a Website to examine the scriptures/words usage in every JW publication since 1950/1970

by ComingOutaMyCage in

hi everyone!i'm new here, but have been active on the reddit r\exjw community.

i have just published a website where i analysed the last 50-70 years worth of watchtowers, awake, books, brochures, and kingdom ministries/work books.. i have collected all the data and published it at the link below.

you can also see below an example of genesis.

joao

Great work!

Congratulations!

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Fascinating Quotations of The Faithful Slave

by Vanderhoven7 in

do you have any amazing quotations that have been produced by the faithful slave over the years?.

remember it's important that we should learn to love and value truth for it’s own sake; to respect and honor it by owning and acknowledging it wherever we find it and by whomever presented.

a truth presented by the faithful slave himself is just as true as a truth stated by god.. share some of those amazing quotations that have fascinated you.

joao

The one from 2022 is one that struck me enormously! But I had the idea that it had been one or years earlier... How time flies!

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Sixteen years later and wow is life different

by BlackSwan of Memphis in

i have no idea if this is the right place to post this.

if you're just leaving the witnesses or questioning and toying with the idea of leaving..... life goes by fast.

and either you rip the band aid off and deal with it or let it fester and eat you alive.

joao

Congratulations!