Nope, I'm not going to waste my time listening to dumb faces! 😀
Posts by joao
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Sanderson’s “Young People” convention talk
by FFGhost inso did anyone else have the misfortune of listening to sanderson’s talk corresponding to the saturday morning convention program?.
full title is “young people - choose a path that leads to peace!”.
the basic idea is, hey you teenagers, you ought to be pioneers, wt construction workers, and/or bethelites.. i tried to put myself back in time an embarrassing number of decades…if i were in this talk’s target audience, how would i respond?.
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joao
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Family division
by joao inthe worst part of my experience of getting rid of the shackles of wt is not the shunning.
i can live with that.
if people don't want to talk to me, there are many more who do!
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joao
Do not dwell on what you don't like.
@TBK
You're right. The problem is the feeling that, even though I've left, the WT still has its claws on those I love and still controls part of our lives.
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An introduction
by deenolikeszep inhello my name is deeno and i’m so happy to have found a place like this, hopefully i can make some friends here :3. anyways idk if my profile updated but a little about me i’m 16 but my 17th bday is on the 29th aaaand i was disfellowshipped sometime in september or october 2021. as i’m a minor i’m still in my dads home and so i am forced to go to meetings and convention n shit so that’s fun but hey could be worse lol.
but yeah that’s it as far as that goes, oh and i suppose i should mention my pronouns are he/they.
that should do it for now, thanks for reading if you made it this far n have a good day/night :3!
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joao
Hi Deeno!
Welcome! I'm very happy for you. Now you're free and you'll be able to decide what to do with your own life!
Even if you have to face some issues (everybody has), it's worth it!
Best wishes!
João
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Family division
by joao inthe worst part of my experience of getting rid of the shackles of wt is not the shunning.
i can live with that.
if people don't want to talk to me, there are many more who do!
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joao
Hi everybody!
The worst part of my experience of getting rid of the shackles of WT is not the shunning. I can live with that. If people don't want to talk to me, there are many more who do! That's how you know who your friends really are! The worst part is when your own family, wife and daughter, keep wanting to waste their time, family time, attending meetings and not helping doing something as a family and don't allow you to be the Head of a good Christian family. This is what I really struggle with.
Even though I'm trying to take it calmly, it's really tough!
I know that it all results from their fear of being shunned and put aside if they leave. But they don't want to because of emotional and social reasons, not because of their love for God.
This is just sad...
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What Name Does the New Testament Emphasize - Jehovah or Jesus?
by Vanderhoven7 init seems to me scripturally speaking, that jehovah's witnesses are emphasizing the wrong name.. it should be jesus, not jehovah.
who is the way, the truth and the life?
(john 14:6).
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joao
That's the reason why God's name doesn't appear anywhere in the 5000 copies of the NT, except for two occurrences of the short form in Revelation. Only in the NWT was it "artificially" introduced about 237 times, if I remember correctly. Even so, the name Jesus appears more than 300 times, again, if I'm not mistaken. This says quite a lot about the subject!
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Anyone else heard this?
by BoogerMan inthe other day, i chatted to an elderly woman and her daughter who was about 45-50. total strangers.. we were discussing covid when the daughter said, "my neighbor studies with jw's, and the jw's told her 3 months before the virus started, that they had to stop going from door to door because something was coming.".
i've never heard anything like this before - have you?.
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joao
That's an easy one! Here in Portugal, our government, after knowing about what was going on in China and one or two other European countries, said it wouldn't reach us! But I could see they were wrong... And only some time after did the virus cross the Atlantic. So, am I a prophet or just someone who can use his head to think? The WT loves to take advantage of events to prove them right but it's very easy to predict anything AFTER it has occurred. It's just a matter of distorting facts!
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"Why would anyone build a house in this system of things?"
by Queequeg inrecent posts about elders telling people to quit their jobs etc.
reminded me of this.. when i was in my early twenties i decided that i really wanted to build a house (id always wanted to, even as a kid).
i justified my "selfish" desire in my own mind by thinking that once we were living in it we'd have more freedom and skills to volunteer to do things like quickbuilds and international construction (actually, it really did work out that way).
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joao
Why would anyone need new HQ and magnificent cinema studios in this system?!
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joao
I'm not sure that when they say that "what is said in those messages applies to all of God’s people today" means that they are admitting that the NT was written to all, including the non-anointed JWs. Their use of language is very tricky... BTW, didn't Jesus say that he needed to convey his message to the non-believersso that they could be saved? So, didn't that mean that the NT was written for all humanity too?
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A little boy will lead them [i.e. the wolf...the leopard...the lion. Is. 11:6-9]
by Wonderment indon't know if this subject has been touched on here before, but i have wondered at times, how much literalness can be applied to this messianic prophecy within a paradise setting (assuming one probable interpretation of is.
the wt presents a mental image of complete harmony between animal and mankind.. does this biblical passage somehow indicate that existing wild beasts will feed on vegetation alone.
animals are not spoken of living forever in the bible.
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joao
Never bought that one either!
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Charles Russell Apologetics
by Vanderhoven7 injust ran across a russell apologetic site that i think people will find interesting as well as informative.. ron day writes:.
charles taze russell never “expected” christ to return in 1874. before 1876, russell had rejected the date setting of the second adventists.
in 1876, he accepted barbour’s conclusion that christ had returned in 1874. yes, he died in 1916, still holding to the belief that christ had returned in 1874.. until 1904, russell accepted barbour’s belief that armageddon (the time of trouble) had begun in 1874, and that it was to end in 1914. he rejected this in 1904, about ten years before 1914. in 1904, he came to understand that the time of trouble begins after the ending of the times of the gentiles.. russell, however, never believed in the kind of armageddon that is preached by the jehovah’s witnesses.
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joao
Interesting, very interesting. Thanks!