Posts by Leathercrop

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Were we really meant to live forever?

by Leathercrop in

our capacity for adaptation (there's an official term somewhere) is apparently very vast.

meaning that whatever is a novelty always becomes old news and apparently it happens very quickly.

human beings in fact have to put a lot of effort into not discarding valuable things and relationships because of our overwhelming tendency to become incredibly used to it and just plain bored with them.

Leathercrop

Our capacity for adaptation (there's an official term somewhere) is apparently very vast. Meaning that whatever is a novelty always becomes old news and apparently it happens very quickly. Human beings in fact have to put a lot of effort into not discarding valuable things and relationships because of our overwhelming tendency to become incredibly used to it and just plain bored with them.

The human experience is limited. Even if we transferred into so called intergalactic habitats , eventually we will run out of new things to experience. The concept of existing forever and ever and ever with nothing new to experience becomes rather odd.

The concept of everlasting life we may have embraced as JWs I think only seemed appealing out of the also natural fear of losing someone and something we love. But if that fear is eliminated, if we can never lose it does the idea of eternity then stop computing in our minds?

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Jesus never existed!!

by jw_uncovered in

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buddha of india .

he performed miracles and raised one man, el-azar-us, from the dead.

the sun is the "light of the world.

Leathercrop

The additional claim that this man was also god made flesh, and that the whole thing was his plan from the start, requires far more than testimonials.

Tonus.

Exactly, we've crossed over into spiritual and mental territory when it comes to this subject.

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Predictions for the next decade?

by jehovaxx in

as it’s nearly the new year my prediction over the next decade or so will see the sense of urgency dwindle.

then some huge huge changes.

for example by 2034 in a decades time, they will have address the 1914 issue and will come out and say we can’t be dogmatic.

Leathercrop

Im 45 years old, in 10 years I'll be 55. Damn, what a strange "place" the org will seem like compared to the 90s when I grew up in it. You don't even have to count time in service anymore, which to me is just the biggest deal ever, and will only be outdone when they scrap 1914. They've basically already done that too.

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Jesus never existed!!

by jw_uncovered in

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buddha of india .

he performed miracles and raised one man, el-azar-us, from the dead.

the sun is the "light of the world.

Leathercrop

Proving or disproving the physical existence of Jesus is really only a distraction. Anyone that becomes a believer now does it as a result of a personal spiritual experience, not because they got to shake hands with Jesus.

I believe Jesus physically existed as described in the Bible...but even if he didn't, what would that change? My entire spiritual experience is not based on his physical existence or lack of it.

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The "Problem" With Zoom

by XBEHERE in

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here is the org's problem with zoom, attending this way does not fit with their "scriptural definition" of a christian gathering.

at least not anymore, one thing my pimi wife is fine with is attending on zoom occasionally, even 2-3 times a month or so.. if some of you recall, during covid there were break out rooms setup for people to stay on and associate.

many would also stay in the main meeting and talk over each other trying to say hello, etc.

Leathercrop

PLUS, you really do not have to sit there and listen!!! Turn the camera off, mute the mic and open a beer and watch TV.

Lmao, that prolly be me at a 10am meeting 😂

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Encouraging scriptures for the day

by Kosonen in

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hello my friends,.

here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.

revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).

Leathercrop

Yes, that's the core beliefs Jehovah's witnesses have convinced their members to believe with all the scriptures from the Bible that point to this.

It is true that this is what JWs have been convinced of, but is it truly a clear teaching in the Bible?

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Encouraging scriptures for the day

by Kosonen in

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hello my friends,.

here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.

revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).

Leathercrop

@kosonen,

I'm going to play devil's advocate here and ask, do the scriptures really say humanity will pick up where Adam and Eve left off? Or is this an inference?

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Encouraging scriptures for the day

by Kosonen in

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hello my friends,.

here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.

revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).

Leathercrop

"And our salvation is not given by a religious organization, but it will depend on how we individually respond to the word of God." - Kosonen

Thx for further expanding on this. But what IS this salvation? What will we do once we're saved?

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Encouraging scriptures for the day

by Kosonen in

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friends

hello my friends,.

here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.

revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).

Leathercrop

And surely Jesus would like to see other Christian congregations to get rid of their false doctrines. And I don’t believe Babylon the Great represents false religions.

And why would Jesus want to do this Kosonen? If at least one Christian church is teaching truth, why isn't it enough? Why not have the choice, like originally in the garden of Eden?

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Nobody else understands

by ElderBerry in

if you once were fully pimi and truly believed jw doctrine to the core like i once did, when you come to the reality that it is not the truth at all it can be extremely devastating.. i think only other ex jws could ever understand.

i wasted my entire life i thought the real life was yet to come to wasted the best years knocking on doors.

now i’m so angry.. i can understand why so many top themselves when they realise it was all lies..

Leathercrop

I met my wife as a jw ...a hot sexy spitting image of Lynda Carter aka the real Wonder Woman with long legs for days and tons of fun in private hehehe...will never regret that.

One of the things that became utterly clear with time after distancing myself from JW was how emotionally dependent I'd become on the org. Believing that ONLY in the org I could be respectable, clean, well dressed, positive minded, purposeful, etc...

But the truth is that all those things originate from within. Seems almost ridiculously obvious now but it wasn't at first. Once I came to understand this, the crutch that was JW disappeared. A long time ago I read Candide by Voltaire and there's a quote he writes in there "We must all cultivate our own garden"....truer words...