Leathercrop

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  Did God know adam and eve would sin?

  by gavindlt in

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  to all those on this forum, i would love to know what your take on this vital question is..

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  Leathercrop

  God chose not to know.

  Slimboyfat

  Great name btw lol

  I agree mostly with this. God knows all things. The Bible describes that we are made in his image, we are God's "thoughts".

  Imagine a God existing only in himself with absolute nothingness aside from himself. Why create something like himself with no free will? He could, but if we also believe God is love, then no free will would equal no love. Love has to be expressed. And it can only be expressed thru free will.

  So God knew of the probability of sin, but chose to let love express itself out. Or not.
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  Geoffrey Jackson has a beard now

  by Tahoe in

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  Leathercrop

  Beard or goatee?
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  Where’s the 2023 Service Report?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what’s keeping them?

  this has got to be the latest it’s ever been.

  maybe it’s the last one they’ll ever publish too, after dropping reporting hours for publishers ….

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  Leathercrop

  
  

  The entire organisation is in decline, Bethelites all being laid off. Bethels downsizing selling KHs. Hardly print anything these days.

  jehovaxx

  Bethelites are being laid off? Is this a mass layoff, or their standard layoff and replacement cycle?
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  Thoughts on annual meeting “new light”

  by FFGhost in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, i finally saw the annual meeting video part 2.. this is the one with the “new light” on who might survive armageddon, vs. those who do not.. in summary, for those of you fortunate enough not to have to sit through it, it’s something like this:.

  old light: once the “great tribulation” starts, that’s it for non-jws.

  the “door of the ark” is closed.

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  Leathercrop

  The word Jehovah is not in the Bible, YHWH can be translated many ways

  Elena

  Any "translation" of YHWH ( ie. Jehovah or Jehova) is still YHWH. Here I am totally ok with the way JWs have interpreted where YHWH goes in the Bible. Context makes it very reasonable to conclude when YHWH is being referred to. Now, what does that name mean to two different people? That's another matter.
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  Encouraging scriptures for the day

  by Kosonen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello my friends,.

  here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.

  revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).

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  Leathercrop

  The problem is an age old problem...in that scriptures can be interpreted in just about any conceivable way you want. It's an exercise in futility to get into an argument about the Bible for this reason, or about spirituality in general for that matter. The people I recall that accepted the JW teachings were people that had not been associated with religion before in any significant way. And if they were very unhappy with their life I could just about guarantee that I could bring them into the JW religion.
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  A BEARD PREDICTION FOR 2024

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  fyi, i posted this prediction on my facebook page last night and it has received 224 likes and there have been 83 comments made.

  many of the comments are hilarious.. .

  a beard prediction for 2024:.

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  Leathercrop

  Im assuming any facial hair is now permitted. Goatees..soul patches..etc
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  So what happens next...

  by Farmer Jim1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with what is arguably the biggest change to jw life in recent decades (the scrapping of publishers counting hours) what does this lead to?.

  in my mind these are the results;.

  1) a massive decrease in 'preaching hours'.

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  Leathercrop

  think most people still in the cult are in it for the social life....the old religious god botherers have mostly gone to join him by now.

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  I wonder what that is these days. Older folks yes, it's all the friends they've known. Younger people with all the distraction and social media... virtual reality options coming up ...in a short 10 years the association aspect will also be irrelevant or no more relevant than for other religions.
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  So what happens next...

  by Farmer Jim1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with what is arguably the biggest change to jw life in recent decades (the scrapping of publishers counting hours) what does this lead to?.

  in my mind these are the results;.

  1) a massive decrease in 'preaching hours'.

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  Leathercrop

  But at this point, if the WTS did that, virtually everything they’ve done to shore up that claim for the past century will have been for nothing, and their demand for loyalty and obedience to the Org above all else becomes meaningless.

  There’d be virtually zero incentive left to even be a JW

  Vidiot

  It's virtually already there, no reporting of time took this religion into mainstream, and the beard thing emphasized it. When you really can't tell the difference between a JW and a nonJw as clearly as you could even just 10 years ago, then you will definitely ask yourself what's the point?

  People that seriously believe in God will turn inward for direction in life, the org will no longer be that banner.
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  Next change?

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, first the turning in time got axed, now beards are okay, what is up next?

  women wearing dress slacks to the meeting?

  birthdays becoming acceptable?

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  Leathercrop

  Mother's Day and Father's Day will be just fine next.

  Birthdays will too eventually.
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  Encouraging scriptures for the day

  by Kosonen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello my friends,.

  here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.

  revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).

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  Leathercrop

  You are very welcome, and Jesus is inviting you too to become a king for his kingdom.

  Ooof I'm still very much a sinner hehehe I have faith, I'll be happy wherever he places me, out of my control