Hmm...there is a story about some guy named satan, but I'm not sure if that is what you want to hear...
redpilltwice
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Are Gods true worshippers on Earth today? If they are not JWs then who are they?
by Formerbrother inis there gods true worshipers on earth today as jesus said there would be?
if they are not jws then who are they?.
who else comes close to being gods true followers today?.
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redpilltwice
formerbrother: I doubt that myself, Im sure there are some. The question is who?
What are your criteria for identification of true worshippers? Love? That we are supposed to live in the end-times? Preaching? Remember, every century since Jesus had its end-time sects and prophets. Look it up at jwfacts.com.
But wait a minute here...do you maybe still believe the JW 1914 doctrine?
If you do, I can understand your question but then I feel it's no use for you asking your question on this forum! It has been adressed over and over and over....
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Are Gods true worshippers on Earth today? If they are not JWs then who are they?
by Formerbrother inis there gods true worshipers on earth today as jesus said there would be?
if they are not jws then who are they?.
who else comes close to being gods true followers today?.
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redpilltwice
To me, after my succesful fade, the situation looks a bit like the days of Russell. Many people are searching for "something", a certain meaning or purpose. Many religious groups believe something is about to happen/needs to change in order to get a better world. Every domination has its own version of what is seen as the truth. Some people think they can discern the true from the false doctrines, with God's "help" of course. It often starts fresh but in the stream of time it all becomes dusty, polluted and corrupted as well as the others that were criticized and the sect becomes just another denomination among many others.
A universal truth can only exist if it finds its origin with a super intelligence that transcends our intelligence and known universe. No organised religion for me anymore. close is not good enough! It has to be clear and perfect. Modern-day prophecies need to be 100% correct, no compromise or "new light". Only if Jesus or any ultimate divine messenger reveals himself again with physical proof and miracles, I will reconsider my faith in the biblical God. Until then I will only use principles that work for me and things of historical value. There's too much at stake to live an illusion.
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RIP dad, who introduced me to this fairytail of everlastin life and paradise :(
by Frezia inless than 5 hours ago my great dad fell asleep the last time :( still in a bit of a shock and sad that i will not see him again...i promised myself that once he is here no more, i will somehow make my move out of this organisation who kept us all captive believing in a fantasy of an everlasting life :( i am in a tricky situation, since raised as jw, still in, married to an active jw, and pretty sure that all in my social and family circle will turn their backs on me if i finally say goodbye to a fairytail ;(.
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redpilltwice
My condolences Frezia...take your time to mourn. That also gives you the absolute right, if possible, to start your fade as well, disguised under your human sorrow. Make it very clear to "your" elders that you are going through some hard times, but that you chose to cope with it on your own, personal way. This may sound strange at first, but I mean this in all sincerity. This might be THE moment!
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Those who were converts from another faith. When did you realize that you were being lied to?
by TTWSYF inmy experiences have included being lied to about what the bible says.
mind you , i am not referring to scripture twisting, i mean out right lying about what is written.. obviously at least some here didn't realize until it was later.. just wondering what others experienced.. thanks.
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redpilltwice
Besides the unfathomable "Overlapping generation" and absurd "Type/Anti-type" doctrines...when Candace Conti sued the WT (which was mentioned on watchtower.com-jw-media in 2012) and was paid $ 2.800.000 compensatory damages in 2015 (which was NOT mentioned on jw.org!). Definitely not apostate lies!
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We have our own Gert Wilders in Australia
by barry inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kreptyyo6l8
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redpilltwice
Just for clarity... it's spelled Geert Wilders.
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Punishing doubt (new video by TheraminTrees)
by Anders Andersen inhttps://youtu.be/bdtzbvlg3ni.
it also shortly mentions the child abuse cover up scandal by jehovahs witnesses and compares that to catholic church (around 16:30 mark).
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redpilltwice
Thanks for sharing. Hopefully many witnesses will realize they also are part of Babylon the Great.
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redpilltwice
Nevermind, it will pass.
In the meanwhile...
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Did the flood happen?
by BlackWolf inso we were talking about noah for our family worship tonight and it ended with a little debate between me and my parents about how the flood was possible.
you know, where did the water come from, how did all the animals fit, etc.
of course it led nowhere and my parents came up with some strange theories like that there was "an expanse of water in the sky" and that's where all the water came from.
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redpilltwice
Ahh, good to read the link again that Wizzstick mentioned ( Letters to and From the Watchtower Society Concerning Noah's Flood). LOVE IT!
Those letters may have been the very first seeds of doubt to me. I wasn't even seriously thinking about the possibility of TTATT at that moment, but for years I DID secretly believe that the flood could have been local instead of global, since early humanity probably inhabited just parts of Europe, Asia and Africa centered around the middle-east. Apart from all the biological/psychical objections it was the strong logic from that 2nd letter to the Watchtower regarding the Hebrew word for 'earth' that touched me most and fuelled my personal intuition that the WT teaching was too dogmatic in this matter. A gem and personal favourite from that 2nd letter:
The book of Genesis states that the flood was earth wide. The Hebrew word for ‘earth’ is ‘erets’. Other occurrences of erets include:
Exodus 9:33: this verse states that the “rain did not pour down on the earth”. Here, the word earth must be understood to mean only in the area of Egypt.
2 Chronicles 36:23: here, Cyrus’ empire is said to include “all the kingdoms of the earth”. But surely this scripture is not meant to include empires in the Far East, Africa or in the Americas. At other times, the word erets is not even translated as earth, making it even more obvious that the word does not necessarily imply the entire physical globe. Examples of this include:
Genesis 12:1. That reads: "Go your way out of your country...to the country that I shall show you".
Genesis 19:31: here Lot’s daughter’s state that there is “not a man in the land (earth, King James version) to have relations with us”. Obviously, they are not referring to the entire physical globe, only the general area in which they live.
And Genesis 20:1 states "Abraham journeyed from there to the land of the Negeb”.
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Debating With Evolution Deniers is Just Like This
by cofty inarguing with those who reject scientific evidence can be like arguing about football; just as angry and passionate, but the goalposts keep moving, and one team doesn't exist.. read more here....
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redpilltwice
how the hell do you turn a jellyfish into a fish with a skull, brains, eyes, backbone, gills etc.
You don't. Neither do you turn an octopus into a rabbit or a Kangaroo into a polar bear.
Cofty, I understand your point but the animals you mentioned are in a completely different place in the tree of life and in order to understand universal common descent we must look at what happened during those early stages of evolution with less phyla. You know, from multicellular to sponges to jellyfish to early fish.
Are there intermediates between jellyfish and jawless fish?
If you are really interested in the evolution of tetrapods from fish read this...
I am, and I've read them, and I see some problems with tiktaalik and whale evolution too, but that's for later. These earlier (less complex) stages should be easier to explain, but I can't find any information about the transition from jellyfish to fish. Am I missing some intermediates here?