Posts by redpilltwice

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Has the Great Tribulation Already started?

by The Fall Guy in

w55 10/15 p. 623 par.

w56 12/15 p. 755 par.

w56 2/15 p. 119 par.

redpilltwice

TD, thanks for the additional info. True, this is not their most damaging flip-flop doctrine but there are so many that we have enough proof in order to identify the false prophet.

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don't know if this is a global thing but i've just been told by a pimo member of my old congregation that a min servant has been given the task of destroying all old books/literature in the kh library prior to 1992.. could be the elders (or even one of them) on a mission to stamp out dissent as my ex-wife used the same reasoning to her elder dad that i used in my jc: rutherfords books containing failed predictions.. anyone else heared anything?.

the ms who's been given the task is a company man.

no hope of him keeping them or selling them on ebay.. they have some russell books in that library too.

redpilltwice

Delusion and lack of critical thinking is strong here

Bobby, with all respect, but that's not very kind of you. Are the 1968 and 1969 Awake articles (just to name a few) also available at the WT Library?

If not, why?

1975 anyone?

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Has the Great Tribulation Already started?

by The Fall Guy in

w55 10/15 p. 623 par.

w56 12/15 p. 755 par.

w56 2/15 p. 119 par.

redpilltwice

Thanks Fall Guy.

Russell was wrong about certain dates, such as 1914 and 1915, but even he would turn in his grave when faced with all these flip-flop doctrines. At least he believed and wrote:

"A new view of truth never can contradict a former truth. 'New Light' never extinguishes older 'light,' but adds to it. ...So is it with the light of truth; the true increase is by adding to, not by substituting one for another." Zion's Watch Tower, February 1881

Has anyone tried this one on active witnesses? Would be fun to hear some experiences.

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Wow! Isn't it unbelievable that Kingdom News No. 37 can still be read on the jw.org website?

by redpilltwice in

after all the bad publicity regarding sexual abuse among jw's, i can't believe this tract is still at jw.org!.

do they actually realize this themselves?.

excerpt from the online library below:.

redpilltwice

After all the bad publicity regarding sexual abuse among JW's, I can't believe this tract is still at jw.org!

Do they actually realize this themselves?

Excerpt from the online library below:

Kingdom News No. 37
A Worldwide Message
The End of False Religion Is Near!
False Religion . . .
▪ TOLERATES IMMORAL SEX: In Western lands, church groups ordain gay and lesbian members of the clergy and urge governments to recognize same-sex marriages. Even churches that condemn immorality have tolerated religious leaders who have sexually abused children. What, though, does the Bible teach? It plainly states: “Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men . . . will inherit God’s kingdom.” (1 Corinthians 6:9, 10) Do you know of religions that condone immoral sex?

Yes oh yes WT, I know of such religions!

I found a physical copy in Dutch. Remember this tract?

I feel ashamed that I actually was part of this hypocritical campaign back in 2006 but I'm convinced that it can still be used in a very special way!

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Have you ever gone back to a meeting out of curiosity?

by stuckinarut2 in

just wondering if anyone has gone back to a meeting out of curiosity?

(perhaps to an area far from your old khall where you know no one).

with all the changes from 2012 onwards (videos, tv screens, new meeting format, new songs etc) it would be an odd experience to be in attendance!.

redpilltwice

I got out before the CLAM meetings began, and I'm a curious guy, so now and then I had this foolish thought of having a small taste of this new, fresh and improved midweek spiritual provision in another cong.

There is a reason I still haven't...the incredible boredom...even confirmed by many who are still in.

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2 BOE's arrived-2018 Newsletter and Visitor Centre Update!

by Atlantis in

2 boe's arrived.. .

2018-01-20--chelmsford visitor centre update.

https://we.tl/wkfhroydcs.

redpilltwice

Thanks Atlantis.

34,000 visitors?

But not me, never!

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Pillowgate makes headlines in Finland

by Festus in

local newspaper in finland has published an article concerning wtbs:s "pillowgate@ videos.

the local "communications manager" of jehovah's witnesses - veikko leinonen - has declined to comment them.

according to him they are for internal use only.

redpilltwice

Wow, who would have thought that the first month of 2018 would see such a great anti-witness video getting so much attention? And... made by the witnesses themselves???

I wouldn't!

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Reminder: super blue moon tonight

by _Morpheus in

just a reminder :) i already snapped a few pics and will try to get a few of the blood moon in the morning.

post pics if you got them!.

redpilltwice

Lol EA.

So the bible IS true after all! How much more proof do we need?

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Couldn't the GB have foreseen "spiritual endangerment" taking hold with Internet approval?

by compound complex in

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friends

having listened to the two gb helpers (and cedar's interspersed commentary), i was somewhat taken aback at the comments on the widespread availability of smartphones and such at bethel.

of course, in the congregations, too.

br.

redpilltwice

When you believe the end is near (I believe in the 90's they still did), the internet must have also been considered a logical step in order to fulfill Matthew 24:14 in its final stages (well, at least it must have given that impression to many JW's).

H2O was the first internet forum for JW and non-JW to share information and Google was just beginning. That might have looked still manageable when WT started their own website in 1997 (I believe it was that year). Soon after, Y2K and the 2001 terrorist attacks seemed to indicate there was something huge to come, but...again the end didn't come.

Like LisaRose said, the world became more than obsessed with the latest digital technology and it exploded during the 00's. The world now lives online and yes, that includes JW's.

So, time has proven to be against them, Pandora's box cannot be closed and like never before, fact checking, information sharing, bad publicity and activism is weakening the Borg like termites. Also, the danger of "accidentally" stumbling on online porn and "apostate" material becomes inevitable when the Borg allows you to use smartphones and tablets all the time for service, watching and showing video's, online bible reading, for singing kingdom songs, for research etc.

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What would you say?

by Freedom rocks in

if you had 2 minutes with an old witness friend or with a family member to convince them the 'truth' is a lie and the gb isnt being directed by god what would you say to get their attention that might make them question their beliefs?.

redpilltwice

Some parts have already been mentioned by others, but this is what I'd do...

Two minutes would be enough to read these verses from Deuteronomy chapter 18:

20 “‘If any prophet presumptuously speaks a word in my name that I did not command him to speak or speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die. 21 However, you may say in your heart: “How will we know that Jehovah has not spoken the word?” 22 When the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word is not fulfilled or does not come true, then Jehovah did not speak that word. The prophet spoke it presumptuously. You should not fear him.’

and then point out that "God's" only true and spirit directed organisation on earth was wrong about the end of this system and/or the preaching work in 1914, 1915, 1925, 1941, 1975, within' the 20th century

and then ask: The WT was wrong at least six times! According to these deuteronomy verses... how many times do you think a prophet could falsely speak in the name of Jehovah before it would become clear that he is a false prophet? New light would never conflict with such important dates coming from jehovah's own revealed timetable.

If there's some time left, I'd add this bonus:

John 8:44 clearly states that the devil is a liar and the father of the lie.

With a long history of so many failed prophecies, how would the WT be an exception in the light of this inspired word? Maybe read while the other was still thinking...

1 John 4:1 Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired statement, but test the inspired statements to see whether they originate with God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.