Posts by redpilltwice

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Stepping out of the shadows

by contramundum in

i have been lurking on the site for a few months and thought it about time i plucked up the courage to step out of the shadows and say hello.. i am in the process of fading after realizing all is not right with the organization i had trusted implicitly for over 40 years.

there have always been 'truths' i have struggled to accept entirely, even as a child, but was confident that trusting in jehovah, building my faith and remaining patient would be enough to settle any nagging doubts that remained, so i pushed any inconsistencies to the back of my mind and concentrated on being the best witness that i could be.. over the last few years, however, i have been preoccupied with a number of crises in my family and stepping back slightly from 'theocratic' activity has allowed me to re evaluate a number of concerns and research sources other than the sanitized wt publications.. my eyes are now wide open - i found things which have appalled me and left me feeling extremely let down and disappointed by people i had really trusted.. i tried gently raising a few subjects with my mum (who was baptized early '70s and still remains a staunch wt supporter) but she will hear no criticism of the organization.

i understand this because the best part of her life has been invested in the religion and to acknowledge it may have got things wrong would be to recognize the last 40 years have been a vain waste.

redpilltwice

Welcome to the forum! 40+ years? Wow, the shock must have been BIG, but you DID IT, congrats! Maybe your mum isn't ready yet, but some real critical thinking can rear up any given time in this information era, just have patience and guard yourself against emotional backlash.

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Good news to report: Congregations merged because lack of attendance, publishers & field service

by Khaleesi in

so it's official, i am happy to report that we merged with another congregation having the same problem.

why is it good news???

because people are either waking up, fading or just not buying into this organization any longer or walking away.... i think many young ones are just not buying into it as much, i see many in the congregation i go to very depressed and some i know personally going thru major depression especially the young "sisters" in their early 20s.... .

redpilltwice

Also in Europe, they are merging Congregations.. Example: where 2 congregations at the same Hall, and there is a lack of attendance in one of these Congregations, they are merged into one Congregation

So true anakin, I live in Holland and a few years ago, two congs merged into one in my city because of a lack of elders and ms. I was the youngest of the boe and I quit 5 months ago, The rest is getting older and weaker and don't seem to have much joy anymore. How long will this last before it truly collapses? In a bigger city nearby they also went from three congs to two. Of course they need ca$h from the KH's, but maybe one day they will invite elders from the third world to serve here , just like the RC church did with their lack of priests lol.

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Babylonians Discovered Calculus

by cofty in

it had been assumed that rudimentary calculus was developed in europe in the 14th century but now it turns out that the babylonians worked it out more than 2000 years ago.. researchers have deciphered a detail on a cuneiform tablet held at the british museum and revealed that it describes the movement of jupiter.. babylonians believed that jupiter's position was integral to predicting the weather, the price of goods, and the fluctuating river levels throughout the year.. "the now-decoded 'text a' describes a procedure for calculating jupiter’s displacement across the ecliptic plane.. by tracking jupiter’s speed as a function of time and determining the area under a time-velocity curve.".

redpilltwice

Interesting line of defence Cofty. I thought you'd more straightforwardly point out that evolution doesn't necessitate humans getting smarter. Being dumber or having a smaller brain could equally have selective advantages. In fact I think some have argued humans are getting dumber. The opposite of the Flynn effect.

Intriguing statement Slimboyfat. After having read Evolution is a fact #9 - Less Chewing More Thinking, do you believe that "the MYH16 gene in humans that produces a protein called myosin heavy chain 16" will react on smaller brain size and return to bigger temporalis muscles? You know, like primates such as the chimpanzee or even the gorilla where this protein produces their powerful chewing pressure of the jaw.

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Babylonians Discovered Calculus

by cofty in

it had been assumed that rudimentary calculus was developed in europe in the 14th century but now it turns out that the babylonians worked it out more than 2000 years ago.. researchers have deciphered a detail on a cuneiform tablet held at the british museum and revealed that it describes the movement of jupiter.. babylonians believed that jupiter's position was integral to predicting the weather, the price of goods, and the fluctuating river levels throughout the year.. "the now-decoded 'text a' describes a procedure for calculating jupiter’s displacement across the ecliptic plane.. by tracking jupiter’s speed as a function of time and determining the area under a time-velocity curve.".

redpilltwice

It sort of takes away the notion of people getting more intelligent over the centuries

Not really. They were so interested in Jupiter because they thought it was integral to predicting the weather, the price of goods, and the fluctuating river levels.

Cofty, thank you for your post, but are you telling that the Babylonian tendency to superstition and what we now know as pseudo science has something to do with their intelligence? Aren't millions today who have learned calculus at school also interested in astology and other superstition as well?

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What shocking stories did you ever hear about?

by Truthexplorer in

as a pre-awakened ms, i heard of 2 stories that i found very shocking at the time.

please keep in mind, i was following wt blindly at the time and was part of what i thought was the true religion.

the first shocking story was when i attended a large meeting for elders and ministerial servants covering our circuit.

redpilltwice

Assumed pedo ring of six JW's including some elders. First hand knowledge because I was in the J.C.! Thank god it turned out not to be true, but boy oh boy, did it touche a nerve!

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What are the biggest holes in evolution?

by shadow in

how honest are the proponents of evolution?

idk but curious to see what type of response there is on a topic like this or does their study only seek to confirm their preconceptions and ignore uncomfortable facts?

redpilltwice

Oh, and beware of Ken Miller if you thought that the D.I. has a hidden agenda.

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What are the biggest holes in evolution?

by shadow in

how honest are the proponents of evolution?

idk but curious to see what type of response there is on a topic like this or does their study only seek to confirm their preconceptions and ignore uncomfortable facts?

redpilltwice

Cofty, for someone who wasn't aware of Francis Collins, you sound a bit too convincing. Have you ever considered Meyers work on the Cambrian Explosion? I doubt it. Have you ever read the counter arguments against Tiktalik? I did! I'll be back at you later, ok?

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What are the biggest holes in evolution?

by shadow in

how honest are the proponents of evolution?

idk but curious to see what type of response there is on a topic like this or does their study only seek to confirm their preconceptions and ignore uncomfortable facts?

redpilltwice

If you want to read about the holes/weaknesses of T.o.E., I'd suggest Stephen C. Meyer's books "Signature in the Cell" and "Darwins Doubt". He's a philosopher of science who makes a case for an intelligent designer without being religious or dogmatic.

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Sick! "Stoning of Two Transgenders in Dortmund, Germany Prevented By Police In The Last Minute."

by park ave boy in

this is what europe is becoming?

my work colleague in germany sent my this article in an email and it is perhaps one of the most disturbing things i have heard yet.

i have been hearing about many of these recent homophobic and transphobic hate crimes taking place across europe but this one slipped through the cracks.

redpilltwice

EndofMysteries, you wrote: only in the past few years have I learned about politics and what liberal and conservative, etc, mean. I must say I've come to really dislike far left liberals . . . They are to blame for opening the gates of Europe to let the flow of so called refugees go in unchecked.

I totally agree with you. A few nonths ago, one politician in my country warned our government for the potential danger of living "testosteron-bombs" coming our way. He was laughed at and branded a "racist & extremist". I think they don't laugh anymore but can only look in the mirror and ask themselves: "What would I do if MY wife or relative was gangraped?". This is not about racism, this is simply about protection of citizens as stated by the law.

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looks like the org. stopped all the "leaks"

by nowwhat? in

cedars site hasn't had anything new since september when the new mid week meeting was disclosed.

wonder if the moles were caught.

redpilltwice

Calm before the storm? If the moles were caught, we would have known.