Steve2, you nailed it!
redpilltwice
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What would you like to have known about JWs before deciding whether to get baptised?
by slimboyfat inif you could go back in time and tell yourself one thing about jws would you do it?
and what would you choose to say to yourself?
do you think you could have convinced yourself not to get baptised if you chose the right thing to say?
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Won't get fooled again .....
by The Rebel inhaving left the witnesses i hope i won't get " fooled again".
yet life outside the organisation seems one big advertistiment telling me how useless i am.
these advertisements tell me i am physically ugly, which can only be corrected by buying the advertisers " answer to my prayers" product.
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exposed 3 jw's in front of my jw dad
by JunkYardDog inon a road trip with my jw dad and stopped at the rest stop.
this jw lady walked up to me with a craptower.
big mistake.
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redpilltwice
- JYD... you are doing god's work my son...it's called sifting
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1914.... current significance?
by NeverKnew init seems that when i ask witnesses questions about 1914, they really don't understand the relevance to their message today.
i am told that they preach about the coming kingdom and that they don't preach a message of 1914. if a person doesn't understand 1914 then i can clearly see how showing them the inaccuracies of the doctrine wouldn't matter.
can we compile a list of ties 1914 has to their current beliefs?.
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redpilltwice
Keep the old date and your religion is basically like an expiration date on your milk. It's probably good for a little longer, but it's going to go bad soon.
The expiration date of 1914 may be longer than you think. The wt's last hope may be:
1914 > Noah's 120 years > 2034
It will give them another 18 years and it fits the doctrine of the overlapping-generation.
I don't believe that, for the coming years, many will buy their incoherent crap any longer as many eyes will be opened (for instance, think of what the ARC will trigger even more). Let alone for another 18 years!!! But as Hitler's bunker (!) shows, there will always be loyalists (!) who believe they will betray Jah himself if they ever leave his imperfect, yet approved and only earthly organization.
We will see what happens...but if they already didn't want to change 1914 into 1957 because the majority of the GB didn't want to lose face and authority (that change to 1957 was proposed by Schroeder, Klein, and Suiter in 1980 - see CoC), then why should they give it up now while Stephen Lett makes bold statements like these?:
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I conclude evolution is guided
by KateWild inyour qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
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redpilltwice
Katewild > I draw the conclusion that a Creator could be responsible for guiding the process, others may feel this is evidence of evolution without external guidance.
What do you think?I think you made a good point and "could" is a well chosen word ;-)
I think homochirality is a millstone around the neck of abiogenesis.
I think the first proteins couldn't arise from a primordial soup with only racemic ingredients.
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Great Tribulation alert?: Russia signs new restrictions that bans almost all forms of religious preaching outside recognized churches.
by redpilltwice inthis morning, my wife showed me this online article (written yesterday evening july 11, 2016) from dutch newspaper "trouw":.
http://www.trouw.nl/tr/nl/4716/christendom/article/detail/4337852/2016/07/11/rusland-verbiedt-thuiskerken-en-meeste-geloofsverkondiging.dhtml.
to me, this seems to be one serious step further, and together with the convention bunker video's it will surely fuel the persecution-syndrome and expectations of the great tribulation even more than it already did!
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redpilltwice
Nobodyspecial, you wrote:
As for that quote from from the daniel book, could it be any more vague???? 'Will it be russia or will be someone els?
Well, we all know how much they discourage speculation. They never mentioned something like China or some kind of terrorist-state-coalition, but they DID mention a former Soviet Union-part, which Russia is. From a JW point of view, that must mean something, right? This new ban is really taken to the next level and we know the jw mind-set.
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Seeking support ... Where can a Christian go
by Sevan inhey all, .
so i recently posted for the first time and introduced myself.. i have been spending time reading various posts.
some informative, some not so much.. since i've been reading on here, i've read a lot from atheists.
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redpilltwice
I am not here to be converted to Atheism, nor am I here to convert anyone to Theism. I am simply looking for a little support and friendship.
You will find it here Sevan, I'm sure. But I tell you, this forum has many doors to many viewpoints and it's my experience that all have to offer something. Just choose carefully if you are still sensitive in this stage...
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Great Tribulation alert?: Russia signs new restrictions that bans almost all forms of religious preaching outside recognized churches.
by redpilltwice inthis morning, my wife showed me this online article (written yesterday evening july 11, 2016) from dutch newspaper "trouw":.
http://www.trouw.nl/tr/nl/4716/christendom/article/detail/4337852/2016/07/11/rusland-verbiedt-thuiskerken-en-meeste-geloofsverkondiging.dhtml.
to me, this seems to be one serious step further, and together with the convention bunker video's it will surely fuel the persecution-syndrome and expectations of the great tribulation even more than it already did!
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redpilltwice
This morning, my wife showed me this online article (written yesterday evening july 11, 2016) from Dutch newspaper "Trouw":
To me, this seems to be one serious step further, and together with the convention bunker video's it will surely fuel the persecution-syndrome and expectations of the great tribulation even more than it already did!
sidenote: Remember what the WT wrote in 1999's "Daniels prophecy"-book (bold is mine)?
*** dp chap. 16 pp. 280-281 par. 21 The Contending Kings Near Their End ***
With the disbanding of the Soviet Union in December 1991, the king of the north suffered a serious setback. Who will be this king when Daniel 11:44, 45 is fulfilled? Will he be identified with one of the countries that were part of the former Soviet Union? Or will he change identity completely, as he has done a number of times before?
I used google-translate for the Trouw-article for all non-Dutch readers (bold is mine) :
RUSSIA BANS HOME-CHURCHES AND MOST FAITH PROCLAMATION
The new law, adopted in the meantime signed by parliament and Putin bans almost all forms of religious preaching outside the walls of recognized churches.
Below street evangelism, but also includes keeping a service at someone's home. Distributing religious books and -Flyers is also prohibited. Anyone caught can be fined 700 euros. Organizations who violate the law must take into account a sum of up to 14 thousand euros. Exceptions are possible, but only if an organization has applied for a license.
Human rights groups and Christian clubs now raise the alarm. Putin will use the new measure to thwart all the organizations that are not part of the Russian Orthodox Church, they expect. Patriarchate of Moscow and Putin have for years been two peas in a pod: the president gives her a special status and political influence in return for explicit political support for his government.
Human Rights Watch speaks in The Guardian about "an attack on freedom of expression, freedom of conscience and privacy."
The measure is part of a package with a number of far-reaching anti-terrorism measures. Who participates in a "mass disturbance" can be imprisoned for five to ten years. Telephone and internet providers have long to save all data on customer behavior for half a year and help intelligence agencies to decrypt messages online.
Moscow is religious organizations that do not belong for some time close to the Russian Orthodox Church on the skin. Four years ago threw eg high barriers for foreign aid organizations. They have since been regularly a paper to prove that they are bona fide. The authorities tightly control and do sometimes occur. Part of the so-called NGOs that can not resist, it appears from statistics published by the government. Since the introduction of the new rules, the number of NGOs decreased by a third.This article focusses on religious implications, but in it, there is a link to a recent Guardian article which is primary about the anti-terrorist law:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/26/russia-passes-big-brother-anti-terror-laws
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Fb pages
by Drwho inim not a jw and never was but had a bad encounter with one , ie my gf was one .
anyway , i was wondering if fb pages are actually allowed , i thought the wt frowned upon them ?
here is one i discus in regularly , maybe take a look and leave a comment on the tripe they write , it looks very well done and presented ,https://www.facebook.com/honor.jehovah/.
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redpilltwice
About two years ago, while I was still in, I had a discussion with a brother in his 60's about how some youngsters got in trouble because of social media. He literally told me that everyone who had a facebook account, should be disfellowshipped! He may have been a bit emotional at that point, but I had facebook as well (didnd't tell him) and I was so shocked by this cultish statement that I couldn't even respond . Can you imagine how many would have been disfellowshipped if this "brother" would have had the power to make the rules? I think that, besides card-witnessing for those who are approved by the BoE, more and more jw's choose easy "online" preaching to complement "hard" hours (door-to-door) to please the elders. Jworg is the bait. No exhausting discussions anymore, just redirecting to a cultish website.
Looking back, this deluded comment must have been one of those many stones that laid the foundation for my eventual awakening.
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Alligators Infested Waters
by Iamallcool indo you know the name of the country where the wt said the brothers walked thru alligators infested waters to go to the assembly, etc?
there is no way i will do that for jehoober!
they sound like rick fearon.
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redpilltwice
Some have to cross crocodile-infested rivers.... Why do all these people put forth so much effort?
