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  My Introduction - An ex-elder's story of waking up later in life.

  by doubtfull1799 in

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  2. experiences

  background:.

  my parents got the “truth” while i was in primary school.

  i was baptised at 14. i loved school and was extremely studious.

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  Very, very welcome & great story doubtfull1799,

  first of all...I LOVE your username. Wt has always tried to minimize the impact of false dates. Barely any mention is made of 1874 and 1878 ("Proclaimers" (1993) and "Kingdom" (2014) book) but when I found out about 1799 being Russell's start for "the last days" I had the "GOTCHA!" feeling. After that it's not that difficult to see how EVERY generation since Christ has seen signs of the last days, including generations BEFORE 1914, WT's "turning point in history" lol (check http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/apocalyptic-end-of-world-predictions.php).

  I was not born in, but your story is quite similar to mine and I'm glad you really were a higher-up among the elders with all your privileges, wow! The organisation needs to feel what the price is for their intellectual dishonesty and playing with peoples lives!!! Many good sincere men and woman with a conscience are leaving, those who can't leave but know TTATT are voting with their wallets, time, energy etc.

  Just like you, the infathomable WT studies and last but not least, the ARC testimonies were the final blow for me after a few years of growing doubt since the Candace Conti case. I faded (and my whole family with me) without real concequences. Of course ex-elders know how to play the game but that never is a guarantee to skip under the radar without an amount of serious damage or backstabbing. I'm pretty sure the remaining elders also weren't in for a witch hunt, although I openly expressed serious doubts regarding 1914 and the sexual abuse scandals, even in the face of the circuit overseer!!! I was the youngest, the rest will become burnt up sooner or later...it's inevitable .

  I hope things work out well for you...you seem to be the kind of guy that has earned enough respect in order to not to be slained. That's a really good thing considering your current situation.

  For myself, the more I become aware of the hidden darkness and layer upon layer of hypocrisy within' the WT Borganisation, the more I long for writing a DA letter. I feel they don't even deserve to have my name on the inactives list, but it would also cost me a few JW friends who I can still talk to and who don't judge me. That's also worth something.

  Could you please pm me which articles you wrote? If not, you will be forgiven (that's how this forum works, har har har )
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  Thank You Stephanie Fessler

  by jwleaks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  stephanie, just a warm thank you for going public and allowing us to look into your personal and private life.

  congratulations on your victory.

  in a better world there would be no need to pursue such a cause, therefore congrats are tempered with unfortunate reality.

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  redpilltwice

  Amen to that jwleaks! We sympathise with all of them.
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  Bethel Library moving to Warwick, are older items 'vanishing'

  by Lostandfound in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in a post re dates etc from fatfreek reference was made to huge library at bethel with items dating back to pastor rs day.

  like the year 1975 which has vanished from wt theology, are gb using move to let them put all old and inconvenient items into some sort of cold storage and off library shelves.

  already the revelation book has gone from the orgs website, and that was quite recent relatively, we studied it 3 times at congregation book study, yet now, like type and antitype it mysteriously was never there.

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  Correction: Revelation book was studied four times.

  Not sure if you meant three times as for "we", but I know because my very first congregation book study was during the third time. I was extremely happy with the fourth time because it was my favorite book. Deeper things only to be understood by the remnant and hidden for satan's system? My ass!!! All vanished... swept from the table with one stroke... never forgave them for this new "light". Friggin' unbelievable!!!
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  Violent Games/Movie

  by Saethydd in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  all through my childhood, i was told about the evils of violence (and magic) in entertainment, i doubt i could count the number of movies and video games i wasn't allowed to enjoy for that very reason.

  i did always watch movies and play video games with a certain amount of violence in them, but i was careful to keep it at the teen/pg-13 rating.. in the last year or so though i've started trying out games like skyrim, fallout 3, and thief.

  (since i still live with my parents i'm careful about where and when i play them.

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  Hmm.. are you sure not to confess to the elders and your parents?

  
  
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  It just seems that there isn't enough in it to pin it to them

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i was just thinking this morning about the court cases wt is facing and although i do think there are enough of them is there just enough in them to pin it to wt.

  i sort of get the feeling a lot of these cases are revolving around the definition of terms and also an attitude of could-a, should-a, would-a.

  even with the latest example it raised more questions than solutions and i'm guessing that's why it was settled out of court.

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  Things are piling up however...awareness is always the start.

  http://jwsurvey.org/child-abuse-2/breaking-news-watchtowers-defense-collapses-jehovahs-witnesses-reproved-for-failure-to-report-child-abuse-settlement-with-fessler-reached
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  The sly tactics the elders are using to malign my name!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have had it confirmed now, that since stopping attending over 18 months ago, the elders have set out to deliberately ruin my name and character .. they have been talking to every witness from the local area and saying things like "be careful of him, he has the ability to implant thoughts in your minds, and he only pretends to be kind and caring".

  so, all i have to say to them is, "bravo!

  if that is the method you want to employ, you have reached the very depths of bad behaviour!".

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  "be careful of him, he has the ability to implant thoughts in your minds, and he only pretends to be kind and caring"

  Wow,.and those elders dare to forget that this is an exact description of the WT brainwash tactics during bible study with newbies? Just replace "him" with "the WT" and voila!

  I agree with you...this is disgusting. Try to stand above it, maybe someone who really knows you as you are will wake up from this BS...

  
  

  
  

  
  
  
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  Reopenmind is having a brithday tomorrow

  by Still Totally ADD in

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  happy brithday my dear wife.

  what a lucky man i am to have you as my life mate.

  i am so happy we are free from this damm cult.

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  Enjoy!
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  More fun! Did you know that Judge Rutherford had a daughter? I sure didn't......

  by sparky1 in

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  i have too much time on my hands.

  my investigations are turning up some neat historical facts..

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  redpilltwice

  Did you know that Judge Rutherford had a daughter? I sure didn't......

  How fascinating!!!! I might have found something that matches the profile....

  
  
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  In Your Opinion Do Today's Elders Recognize That The Religion Is BS?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i always wondered that while i was in especially when i was an elder.

  i recognize that some people,elders included are brain-dead.

  but do you think that the average older today knows it's all nonsense?

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  Spot on alanv et al and a good question Minimus.I often wonder myself but unlike Jesus, I can't read minds. I do know there is always the underlying fear to be branded as disloyal, weak in the faith or having a tendency towards apostacy. I occasionally tried to detect some elders' inner thoughts, but there always was the general "trust the slave, we don't have to understand every detail", "where else to go?", "leave it to Jehovah, he will give new light at the proper time", "we as elders must be an example in the faith" etc.

  I believe that once the zombification process has been completed (never blame the GB, only yourself through FOG), they force themselves to believe that the only bullshit is outside their spiritual "paradise". Few will choose to endure in a double life of mind games and fake smiles.

  Having said that...

  Can you imagine the balls of steel (sorry sisters but that includes you) of all those elders, bethelites, etc. who are WT moles that are keeping websites and forums like this informed??? Nothing but respect!
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  I feel like I'm losing my religion/faith

  by christina1111 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm a baptized jw...been baptized for 8 years...and throughout the years i've been baptized i see "hypocrisy" so to speak in the religion...when you're new and not baptized that's when the jws want to invite you to every gathering they have, they want to appear like they're your best friend...they want to help you out when needed and so forth...however, once you're baptized you go to the elders for help they don't help you....all they do is gather you around the office...have bibles in hand and so forth...they give you articles as well, instead of physically helping you out....but yet when you weren't baptized they would physically help you out and not throw scriptures and articles in your face.

  also when you ask for help and so forth with the bros/sisters they want to throw the "each one must carry his/her own load" scripture at you.....but yet what happened to the scripture of taking care of widows and people who are orphans?.

  it's not just one congregation...throughout the 8 years i've been baptized i've been through many kingdom halls...many towns...many states...when i was inactive for awhile i even pretended to not be baptized and just play dumb when the witnesses came to my door...they're much nicer to you when you're not baptized then when you are baptized...why is that?.

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  redpilltwice

  Thanks Christina for sharing your story with us. After 8 years of tasting all these congregations you are discerning and concluding if JW's really practice what they preach. You even noticed what scripture says about widows and orphans compared to the daily reality in JW land. That's your personal observation, not that of someone else...GOOD! Your conscience seems to be giving the answer. It means you are stilll honest and sincere. Good luck on your journey and this forum will be there 24/7 if you need it.