How are the JW's any different than the Jews in Jesus day? SOMEBODY BETTER HAVE AN ANSWER!
Reply....*crickets*
Simply put: They are not. I noticed it almost immediately when I began to study. But I was the crazy psychotic one.. Peace out Jdub land.
had our midweek meeting last night.
they had a resolution to send an extra (i wanna say $1100 but i only remember it was at least $1000) per month to forward the kingdom preaching work etc.. you know how they work in the kh...no one votes against anything.
i abstained as i almost have always done.
How are the JW's any different than the Jews in Jesus day? SOMEBODY BETTER HAVE AN ANSWER!
Reply....*crickets*
Simply put: They are not. I noticed it almost immediately when I began to study. But I was the crazy psychotic one.. Peace out Jdub land.
hi guys.. "brother" jose is quite possibly the most sinister speaker i've ever seen or heard.
and i've seen/head a lot of cults in my time.. he's over the top with his voice tone and gestures.
i see a future governing body member in the making here:.
Pretty scary voice man. And so this is a bethelite huh? Sure glad I never met one of them, the arrogance of elders and even just regular old Jdubs was quite apparent. I can only imagine this guy....
so we were at another family members home for a random celebration when the nature channel showed a killer whale eating a seal and my sister in law was horrified.
we made a joke about the circle of life and i said something along the lines of 'everything that lives must die, the bible says every king must die, so even jesus wasn't immune'.
after that comment there was an awkward silence with our jw family whispering to each other about my comment of dying.. once upon a time i asked my uber elder jw brother if he thought that he would not die and he asked me if i knew when god would start armageddon.
Wash, rince, occasionally dry, andddddd repeat.
i told him i communicate with my dog, my dog informed me that the cute little french poodle two doors south is a slut.
my orange tree is not producing fruit this year, so i cursed it and told it i want you out of yard.and then i told him the other day i was at the race track (horses) and while passing the stables old turkey told me he will win his race today.
what do you think my psychiatrist diagnose for me.
What?
it seems that many times in life there is a moment or an action that changes your whole world.
it could be just a look that someone gives you.. many times it can be something rather small.
something hardly noticeable by anyone but you.
Great post dude, just great!
As far as the Jdubs are concerned:
After being kicked out of my Mom's house in the senior year of high school, I moved in (literally walked 10+miles in the snow and took a nap in a parking lot) with a Jdub couple in their late 60's I had know for some several years and was studying with for several months (they would come get me and bring me to meetings because my Mom wouldn't drive me anywhere or let me get my liscence).
Whilst moving in and having a dinner cooked for me every night was amazing (hadn't had my parents cook me meals since I was 12) and going to meetings and studying was nice and all, everything quickly went sour.
While nobody in the Kingdom Hall would give me the time of day, I really started wondering if this was the truth. The family that I was living with and studying with said even their own kids that were as old as my parents out of the house hated me for no reason that was made aware of to me.
(Defining moment incoming) One day when the couple had to go to a funeral and I had to go to the Sunday meeting by myself, I walked in and nobody looked at me or said hello. I sat down by myself and raised my hand several times to answer questions and wasn't called on. After the meeting I walked out as if I was never there.
Soon thereafter (as in the following week) all kinds of crazy rumors were circling about me apparently; of course never being told what they were, just being informed that they were circling by the couple I was staying with.
Then, after going to the convention about a month later, I was blatantly ignored and frowned upon by my entire congregation. I soon began to think otherwise of the congregation and brought up my points with the couple. We then had a serious discussion and decided it was better for me to leave and go live with my grandparents several hundred miles away (since I had by then graduated high school).
The whole thing was pretty nuts and I studied with another congregation near my grandparents house and I guess word spread around the congregation after having spoken to the family I lived with and I soon left. Only to make a recent appearance at a KH near where I live now. Made it a month and was kicked out because I had depression about all of this.
That's my story anyways, I hope someone found it interesting to read haha.
sitting there watching the new hbo series last night, i couldn't help but laugh and think about the similarities.
the creators (the gods) and the hosts (their creations) have an interesting relationship.. the "hosts" are programmed to have free thinking but only up to a point.
just like the witnesses.
I don't watch tv other than news. But, from what it sounds like it's very interesting and you make valid points. JW's really are the classic everyday run-of-the-mill business with corporate executives making decisions for their many pawns, who have no say whatsoever. Any uprising and you are fired and told its nothing personal and we hope you understand...mhm...quite similar alright.
1. attend a charity christmas party which my wife (active jw) helps to organise each year 😀.
2. buy a very small christmas tree with lights for the living room (which can easily be hidden away if jw friends are coming up).
3. buy some nice presents for my family.
Going to work as I do every Christmas and Christmas Eve and then sleep and wake up the next day and work again?
Its kinda weird not celebrating holidays when you are not even a JW because you have no family to celebrate it with or friends.
But ehh, I get to save my money when the car breaks down! 😊
lasting memory of the latter period of time in the organisation:.
i had a route call with the magazines whom i'd called on for a number of years.
eventually when i become a parent i became consumed with negativity, doubt (blood issue) & depression.
Lol exactly. And while I myself was keeping up with all my teachings I was never allowed to progress and consistently told how bad I was doing by all the JWs. So I burned out because doing the same thing over and over again (like the Jdubs say to do) and expecting a different result is insanity!
Not only that, but this was one of the first things I posted about on this website and I was screwtenized for blaming the religion. Pretty ironic since there are plenty Apostates on here.
Nonetheless good for you man figuring it out. Know you aren't alone and we just gotta keep peace in our mind as our focus, not constant worries.
3 questions i hit my jw mum with:.
first question: do you believe that god is love?
third question: do you think a god of love would choose to destroy me for not doing something i cannot do (be a jw) because i am not convinced rather than convince me beyond doubt?
Dude exactly.
This is what I said to my father: If I have changed my life around to conform to the organization and its requirements, then why is it that I then become so depressed and even suicidal? Even when I beg Jehovah to protect me because I am working in harmony with my prayers. Not only that, but I have serious disagreements with the organization while studying, and aren't we supposed to make the truth our own and keep testing to see if we are in the truth?
His response: of course it makes perfect sense! Satan wants to mislead you away from the organization.
Me: 😑
We are in similar situations home slice and I don't know what it requires to put it through our parents' heads...
as i have revealed in other threads my mother and i havent talked in over 2 years.
she has been keeping her distance, therefore staying loyal to jehovah.
she found me on facebook.
That's exactly what I want to say to my Dad. I think what you did is good though, and I wish I had the courage man. Whatever happens May peace be with you guys.
ALPD