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  Trump and Rutherford

  by wisdomfrombelow in

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  when i was thinking about trump's personality and appeal it reminded me of joe rutherford.

  be loud, bombastic, always project that your viewpoint is 100% correct and you will nonetheless get people who will follow you to the ends of the earth...

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  wisdomfrombelow

  When I was thinking about Trump's personality and appeal it reminded me of Joe Rutherford. Be loud, bombastic, always project that your viewpoint is 100% correct and you will nonetheless get people who will follow you to the ends of the earth...
  
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  Higher Education - is it really the end of the WT?

  by OutsiderLookingIn in

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  as a non-jw, before i started looking into things, i must say i only encountered intelligent jws.

  so i was quite surprised to read here and in the pew report about their low overall educational achievement.

  granted, my exposure was limited (less than a handful of people over a lifetime) but i met two of them in post-college education (graduate school) at a very good school.

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  The thing about most higher education is it teaches critical thinking. Also, people might start to realize that they are smarter than their religious "bosses" so they are harder to control. When people start to get a measure of independence it spreads and it infects others.I know many well-educated witnesses but there are even more who have left later on because they can connect the dots.
  
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  2016 Convention Video Trailers

  by wifibandit in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkpr0je0g1e

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  The cost to produce that versus the cost to produce a book or a magazine? No wonder they have money problems.
  
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  Updates to Public Talk Outlines 2 & 3

  by wifibandit in

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  will you be a survivor of the last days?.

  serving with jehovah’s unified organization.

  move ahead with jehovah’s unified organization.

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  wisdomfrombelow

  Thanks for the outlines. I really appreciate it.
  
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  Updates to Public Talk Outlines 2 & 3

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
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  will you be a survivor of the last days?.

  serving with jehovah’s unified organization.

  move ahead with jehovah’s unified organization.

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  Is there a way to get all the current public talk outlines as single pdfs like this? Good to see all the information in advance...
  
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  Donation reminders in the magazine

  by wisdomfrombelow in

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  i just noticed that in recent study editons of the watchtower they mention on the inside cover that the magazines are free of charge but if you want to make a donation you can at their website.

  i noticed it from the march 2016 edition.

  i wonder if will be in the clam meeting workbooks as well...

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  I just noticed that in recent study editons of the Watchtower they mention on the inside cover that the magazines are free of charge but if you want to make a donation you can at their website. I noticed it from the March 2016 edition. I wonder if will be in the CLAM meeting workbooks as well...
  
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  2015 WT CD ROM Trying to Hide the Past

  by The Searcher in

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  when installing, it asks if you'd like to receive automatic updates via the internet.. in other words, "we will re-write our history without you knowing what was written previously.".

  the corporation knows that many will never exchange their cd rom for the puerile online library, so doctoring their previous "truths" is the best solution.. a bit like the creed painted on the barn door in "animal farm.

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  The Q-R codes are date stamped and I believe they change when a revision is made but I don't have before/after examples to verify that.
  
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  "If I wasn't born a JW, I would never have become one."

  by OneEyedJoe in

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  i've seen it mentioned by a few on the forum that at some point there was a realization that had they not been born a jw, they never would've converted no matter how many times the jws tried to study with them.

  this was my experience too, and i'm wondering how universal it is for those that were born-in but eventually left.

  i think i started having this thought (more specifically that if i were not born a jw, i would surely have become an atheist by now) in my late teens.

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  I guess I considered my religion as something like a heritage, like jews can relate to the jewish experience even if they are not religious. Or how people of ethnic or racial backgrounds have that in common. I knew before I was a teenager that if I wasn't born into this religion I would not have become one. But that didn't get me thinking that maybe I shouldn't be one...because you were taught to behave like one even before baptism so it didn't matter as much.
  
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  CO's never say thank you for the green handshakes

  by suavojr in

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  ever noticed how co's and ex-do's never say thank you for the hard earned money they get from the friends?

  they truly believe they are entitled to live an easy life at the expense of others.

  this makes my blood boil!

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  We can proudly say, we have NEVER given a CO or his wife a green handshake.
  

  I agree.with that. I would have thought that it would be tantamount to simony and the thought never crossed my mind until I heard about it on this board.
  
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  Update on everything going on in JW Land - Insider Information

  by thedepressedsoul in

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  i'd like to start off by saying that i will be very vague in everything i say.

  i am fairly "high up" in jw land and have to be somewhat careful how i word and say stuff.

  sorry in advance if any specific details are left out.

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  What I would like to know is why they have keep the same business model of using free labor to hand out magazines in hopes of receiving donation witch almost never happens are they that stuck in a rut that they can't pull out of this dead end model?

  Of course they have no idea how to change their business model. It is over 100 years old. It was a clever way to keep people busy so they wouldn't have time to think critically as well as generating income for them. They tied it all to a religious component that they sold as their distinguishing mark. Once they could no longer charge for literature then everything was turned on it's ear.

  There is no activity that they can get everyone to do which will generate income for them. Tithing would be the only way but that doesn't keep people busy and the rank and file need to be kept busy as well.