Posts by pleaseresearch

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No shame in being apostate

by venus in

the one who is standing away is apostate (literally "to stand off," from apo- "away from" + stenai "to stand").

ironically, proponents of untruth may call truth-seekers as apostates, thus making the term meaningless.. for example, paul, the greatest of all apostles, taught untruth (stood away from truth) [see his main teaching in romans 5:12-21] even though he had known the following truths:.

1) all humans did not become sinners through one man (genesis 5:24; job 1:8; psalm 18:23; ezekiel 14:14 and compare habakkuk 2:4), hence there was no need for anyone to pay ransom.. 2) in the old testament, the messiah refers to a “prince of peace” who literally rules from jerusalem, not merely anointed to the office to do the work in some distant future and get killed before that future occurs.

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Anybody who walks away from this organization after everything that is now public knowledge is alright in my book.

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North Korea viral video and JW Comparison.

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i watched this video yesterday from this brave young north korean woman.

hearing her share her experiences living in her country and what the people go through on a day to day basis is so very similar to jws today and how we lived.. please watch and tell me your thoughts.. thank you.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85ijj3insyk.

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I watched this video yesterday from this brave young North Korean woman. Hearing her share her experiences living in her country and what the people go through on a day to day basis is so very similar to JWs today and how we lived.

Please watch and tell me your thoughts.

Thank you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85IJJ3INSYk

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BBC News: Contaminated blood scandal inquiry announced (Expect Some JW Propaganda Over This!!)

by pale.emperor in

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40566761.

an inquiry will be held into the contaminated blood scandal that left at least 2,400 people dead, the prime minister has confirmed.. it will establish the causes of the "appalling injustice" that took place in the 1970s and 1980s.

nhs patients were given blood products that were infected with diseases, such as hepatitis c and hiv.. families of those who died will be consulted about what form the inquiry should take.. it could be a public hillsborough-style inquiry or a judge-led statutory inquiry, prime minister theresa may confirmed.. the prime minister's spokesman said: "it is a tragedy that has caused immeasurable hardship and pain for all those affected and a full inquiry to establish the truth of what happened is the right course of action to take.. "it is going to be a wide-ranging inquiry.".

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My mum rang me saying watch the news, she even went as far as saying she was going to record it. OMG!

But well spotted (Splash) that this could have affected them too.

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BBC News: Contaminated blood scandal inquiry announced (Expect Some JW Propaganda Over This!!)

by pale.emperor in

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40566761.

an inquiry will be held into the contaminated blood scandal that left at least 2,400 people dead, the prime minister has confirmed.. it will establish the causes of the "appalling injustice" that took place in the 1970s and 1980s.

nhs patients were given blood products that were infected with diseases, such as hepatitis c and hiv.. families of those who died will be consulted about what form the inquiry should take.. it could be a public hillsborough-style inquiry or a judge-led statutory inquiry, prime minister theresa may confirmed.. the prime minister's spokesman said: "it is a tragedy that has caused immeasurable hardship and pain for all those affected and a full inquiry to establish the truth of what happened is the right course of action to take.. "it is going to be a wide-ranging inquiry.".

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They will be rubbing their hands over this one.

But what's the figure of JW's dying because of refusing blood in the first place. Much higher than the figures coming out of this blood scandal. But it's shocking how incompetent the NHS have been over this.

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Comparing 1987 to 2017 --- cart witnessing

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take a ride with me back to 1987. picture yourself in your town, or city centre.

remember the clothes people wore, the hairstyles etc.... now imagine yourself doing your ministry out on the street, engaging with people, speaking with them, striking up conversations.

now, how would you feel, and what would you say, if you noticed two people appear nearby with a cart.

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It's the same with the name JW's. I remember my mum over 20 years ago speaking to an ex brother. I think hes now a born again Christian. When he referred to the witnesses as JW's well hahaha. My mum said "Frank, were not JW's were Jehovah's Witnesses."

Your JW's now and that is shocking that this is something she accepts.

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Two witness rule using the other 2 bibles on jw.org

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so i was thinking, now jw.org uses two other bible translations/versions on their website.. can we not use the two witness rule regarding certain doctrines.

for example john 1:1 this is absolutely amazing to me that they would have two bibles for jesus being god.

but only one bible, their own translation in support of jesus being a god.

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So I was thinking, now JW.org uses two other bible translations/versions on their website.

Can we not use the two witness rule regarding certain doctrines. For example John 1:1 this is absolutely amazing to me that they would have two bibles for Jesus being God. But only one bible, their own translation in support of Jesus being a god. In my eyes that's a win for Jesus being God. Score 2 to 1 in favor, and found on their own website.

This could be done with many other verses that Watchtower has changed, just take them to their own website and show 2 bibles that disagree with what JW's believe.

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Comparing 1987 to 2017 --- cart witnessing

by pleaseresearch in

take a ride with me back to 1987. picture yourself in your town, or city centre.

remember the clothes people wore, the hairstyles etc.... now imagine yourself doing your ministry out on the street, engaging with people, speaking with them, striking up conversations.

now, how would you feel, and what would you say, if you noticed two people appear nearby with a cart.

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Take a ride with me back to 1987. Picture yourself in your town, or city centre. Remember the clothes people wore, the hairstyles etc...

Now imagine yourself doing your ministry out on the street, engaging with people, speaking with them, striking up conversations. Now, how would you feel, and what would you say, if you noticed two people appear nearby with a cart. They begin to unpack and get it ready. You keep an eye on them as your talking to someone, showing them a scripture from your bible.

You notice they are Christians from a nearby church, promoting their literature. But they are just sat there on the bench. One is wearing sunglasses, they are both facing away from the cart, paying no interest in it whatsoever. How would you back then, and how would other witnesses have reacted to the cart and this couples attempt at preaching?

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If Jehovah God was in "Human Form" with his Theocratic Nation on earth in todays climate he would be facing Human rights issues.

by smiddy in

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where does one start :.

he is guilty of genocide for the attempted and succesful ,killing off other nations not leaving man woman or child alive.. he is guilty of barbarism against women for not living up to his rules or regulations such as cutting off a womans hand for defending her husband in a brawl with another man.. he is guilty of condemning the whole human race for the misdemeanor of the first human pair for eating a fruit he said not to eat ?

a bit over the top dont you think ?.

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Great post Smidy

If he were human and on earth right now. People would be mad to want anything to do with him, let alone worship him.

I remember an older brother on the coach, as we were going to the British Bethel for a tour. He said we were all selfish hahaha. His wife tried to shush him up. But he was right. We only worship him in order to preserve our lives. Much the same as the people of North Korea do to their leader.

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“Tree of good and bad” means what?

by venus in

if “tree of good and bad” were literal, it would mean adam and eve would know what is “good and bad” only after eating of that tree.

however, even before eating of it, they would think “it is good for us to eat of this tree” which means they are already endowed knowledge of “good and bad.” that means “tree of good and bad” is symbolic of something.. since religious organizations interpret this differently, each reader has to adopt his own conclusion.

for me it looks like this: one thinks of good and bad in relation to himself—if something is beneficial for him he would say it is good for him, and bad for him if it is not beneficial.

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Nice post. I personally think putting such a thing there in the first place was wrong. The curiosity would have been too much if not for Adam and Eve, then for someone else. I mean the fruit from that tree was gonna be eat by someone, someday. I just had to.

The fact that God can see into the future too is very disturbing. Knowing that this was going to happen all along.

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This really does not end well for God.

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to say this whole creation thing has been or will be a success at the end is absurd.

not only did one third of the angels jump ship to satans side.

but adam and eve screwed up so quickly.

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Good point. The fact that we get wars here on Earth is bad enough. But to know even in Heaven things are kicking off. Now if war really was what we think it to be, then angel and demons would have been fighting. So nobody is good. Even the angels if they were involved in this war.