Posts by btlc

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'Organisation is our mother'

by EdenOne in

i need your help please, for an article i'm writing.. i believe that quite recently in the 2010's, possibly at one of the annual meetings of the watchtower, there was one speech (or was it in a publication?

in a broadcast?

) where it was stated that the "organisation is our mother".

btlc

Worldwide Security Under the “Prince of Peace” p. 169:

18 [...] Jesus Christ [...] In this capacity he can fulfill Isaiah’s prophecy and become the “Eternal Father” to the first Adam’s offspring, whom he repurchases and adopts for the purpose of bestowing perfect human life on a paradise earth.

19 In such a way the heavenly Father of Jesus Christ will become the heavenly Grandfather of the restored human family. [...]

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So, the Organization becomes grandma, and 144000 becomes mom? Weird family...

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what prevents me from getting baptized?

by road to nowhere in

todays wt what a bunch of hooey.

try: nobody can explain the beliefs from the bible; there are lots of "rules" beyond tdhe ones on morals enforced(beards, movies),.

the "gifts in men" are in the least incompetent overworked well meaning; but others are overbearing power hungry bullies.

btlc

With last update on baptism questions, WT made it really simple and not so demanding, to suit under aged and aliens who doesn't or can't understand what they are doing - there is no more "on the basis" to belive in ransome (or understand it), no expressing of willing to do "Jehovah's will", and no more Holy Spirit threat over your baptism. We will see what fruits will bring that lowering of the criteria for future candidats.

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Service Department Reminder!

by Atlantis in

jw
friends

was not sure if all of the friends got a copy of this.. .

service department reminder.. .

this reminder came in with the other gdpr boe.

btlc

That's funny, it seems that former and fading JWs are more interested and updated with JW internal materials than average elder!

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Do You Ever Have Dreams You’re Still a JW?

by jp1692 in

last night i dreamt i was at a circuit assembly; i even had a walk-on speaking part early in the morning program.

i spent the rest of the day “working” the event in a security detail.

the dream lasted until the entire day’s program was over.

btlc

I dream sometimes assemblies on strange places, like hospital, we are all accommodate in rooms and watch convention program on TV, and hospital staff treat us like patients. Or we are on the beach, casualy dressed, watching program on beach cinema. I usually wake up unsuccesfully searching some private place to tinkle. Last week I was dreamed that I'm in the field service, I rang on the door and then panic started - no Bible, no literature, nothing to offer and nothing to say, but I managed to wake up before door opened...

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Watchtower hires off-duty law enforcement

by Diogenesister in

an indignant law enforcement officer wrote kim & mikey to let them know watchtower had placed an advertisement on a facebook page dedicated to law enforcement staff only, looking to hire a fully uniformed and armed officer at $35 per hour.

the commission was for the memorial in a specified texan venue.. the officer was particularly miffed at the hypocrisy considering the terrible way law enforcement was portrayed in the 2018 convention video, where the jws had been herded into a field to be slaughtered by a large group of officers.

not to mention the fact they are only too willing to call police for their own protection, yet won’t do so when it comes to protecting children from potential or actual abuse.. https://youtu.be/-rpcsztnvyo.

btlc

I don't know how things works in USA, but here (SE Europe) large gatherings should be approved by local authorities, who also decides is internal security good enough or should be dedicated some police monitoring (uniformed or not) to the event. Same was also 30+ years ago, under socialistic regime, some policemen attended whole program, some just noon break, eating free lunch from convention bife...

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Jehovah provides guidance in the publications and in programs from the faithful slave!

by stumbledbyothers in

this past weeks watchtower study, reminds us that jehovah provides guidance in the publications and in programs from faithful slave!

now you hear from the platform that god has given us jw broadcasting and jw.org.

lets see: thought wt says they have no special connection to god, nor special knowledge, they get no extra holy spirit, gods thoughts higher than mans???

btlc

So, now in internet era, good old Holy Spirit is a little obsolete as guidance tool to God's people? Wi-Fi and 4G link to JW.ORG does a better job? Can't recall last time I read anything about Holy Spirit in WT publications...

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Do You Think The Bible Teaches A Trinity As Religions Teach?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i’m not asking whether you believe in the bible.

i just want your opinion as to whether you think the bible teaches it.

i don’t, for what it’s worth..

btlc

Once upon on a time when I still was uber JW, I had a discussion with one Catholic priest, and i still remember his comment about the Trinity: "it was so obvious to the apostles and to the 1st century Church, so they didn't even bother to put it on paper or to make formal definition - that need became later, with spreading Christianity worldwide. And you can't lock Christ's Church to 27 NT books or to the 1st century, it is a live organism..."
Ofcourse, I rejected such apologetic blabber in that time. But later reading of the Cathecism gave me better insight to Catholic reasoning - it has far more inner sense than any WT teaching, despite both are completly b...s...

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