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  What happened in 1995?

  by pale.emperor in

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  2. bible

  i was born in 1984 so was only 9yo in 1995. i read on various posts on here and on other websites about false expectations about 1975 and 1995. i'm aware of the 1975 failure but what was said in 1995?.

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  What a beautiful day for service!

  by StephaneLaliberte in

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  i heard this expression very often and even said it often myself.

  now that i am out, i realize this isn't always the case.

  there were many times i was going out in service saturday morning and couldn't wait for 12:00 to come along so that we could go swimming, bicycling, play basket ball, go to the beach... .

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  Thanks for your kind words. Preaching is his life, that's him. He know lot of things we talking here, he was elder for decades, he has his ups and downs, but he don't care much about WT ("it's just a piece of paper") or GB ("these are just an imperfect people"). All he know: there is The God, there is His Word Bible, and there is The Message to preach. Nothing else matters.
  
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  What a beautiful day for service!

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i heard this expression very often and even said it often myself.

  now that i am out, i realize this isn't always the case.

  there were many times i was going out in service saturday morning and couldn't wait for 12:00 to come along so that we could go swimming, bicycling, play basket ball, go to the beach... .

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  @Diogenesister

  He is currently in a nursing home, almost blind and can't get out of bed, but he still preaching to nurses...
  
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  What a beautiful day for service!

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i heard this expression very often and even said it often myself.

  now that i am out, i realize this isn't always the case.

  there were many times i was going out in service saturday morning and couldn't wait for 12:00 to come along so that we could go swimming, bicycling, play basket ball, go to the beach... .

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  As much as i know, the only man who really enjoyed field service was my father. Omg, he was never tired in the service. He was a pioneer almost forty years, he made 80+ hours per month easily. He made every occasion to preaching, whoever comes in his sight (neighboors, postman, trafficant, a random passer, etc.) had to listen "the good news". He always had two or three "field teritorries" in a pocket (idk english name for that), and at least 2-3 "bible studies" per week. More than 60 person was baptized after his "studies" during the decades.
  And he was always pissed on me becouse i reported 10-15 hours, mostly spended making him company on his endless studies... oh how i hated field service, almost as much as he liked it...
  
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  Where is the proof?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we all know that the governing body claim to be "god's representatives" and the "faithful and discreet slave" that dispenses spiritual food..... but where is the proof?.

  according to the bible (if we just for a moment take it as a reliable source), all of god's representatives in the past furnished proof of their appointment - not just self referential claims or statements.. for instance, moses and aaron performed miracles before pharaoh (such as the snake staffs.).

  other prophets performed signs and miracles such as making the sun stand still, healing sick people, making walls fall down, etc etc.... even jesus performed miracles as proof of his divine appointment!.

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  A simple test: Deuteronomy 18:20-22; Galatians 1:8, 9
  
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  What changes would JW.org need to make to become a normal Christian denomination.

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  2. beliefs

  i am interested in getting people's thoughts on this.

  on average 40 thousand people leave the organisation yearly for one reason or another.

  the experiences all over the media are proof of this.

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  Too late, you can't put toothpaste back in the tube. But, I would insist on:
  
  - admiting and apologizing for the misleads and errors both the past and the current
  - putting "the organization" on the right place (just an administration tool, not a golden calf)
  - respecting people's rights (no shunning, no restrictions in medical choice, no restriction in educational and proffesional choice)
  
  and i would welcome any of the following:
  
  - rearrange meetings to be really educational, not a brainwash seanse
  - promote researches, education, free minds
  - spend some of that 1 billion $ to help further education of talented JW kids worldwide (better investion than building babylon in warwick)
  - stop publishing crap, better publish 1 publication per year, but with longer lifetime (recent publications didn't last more than a few years)
  -many little things we'll never see
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  chasing me for a report

  by Phoebe in

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  2. friends

  i'm fairly new on here and i've told a lot of my story but to recap, after 60 odd years i've stopped going to the meetings.

  my husband had already left the truth years ago and my children didn't become jws.(phew!).

  i had a horrendous childhood growing up as a witness which included sexual assault by a close relative, also a jw.

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  Sad story, Phoebe, i wish you all the best to overcome bad things and to find some happiness outside of a cult.
  About reporting, if you feel sorry for that elder (and you want to keep snoops away from your life) just text him each month "1 hour" or something like that. Don't let your conscience to disturb you, they stole much more time of your life.
  
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  Introducing Our Rockstar Governing Body

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  isnt nice to see the governing body being so humble, meek and not seeking their own importance?.

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  stash: /intesoft-inc.appspot.com/post/005df9f7e68e40cb9b013248fe7b670c.html

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  It is just a golden calf syndrome: it's not right, we don't encourage it, but, hmmm, give people what they want...
  
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  The great tribulation is now coming VERY soon!

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  watchtower october 2017, par 11, page 28 - "very soon the political powers of satan’s world will form a coalition that is bent on the destruction of god’s people.

  's] have anything to fear?

  not at all!........at that critical moment during the great tribulation, the angelic soldiers of jehovah of armies will come together to protect god’s people..."[j.w.

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  That's Jehovah made you preach on and on!
  
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  Wow i do not reconize this religion anymore...

  by _Morpheus in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  had the misfortune of stopping by the "regional" convention yesterday.

  i promised my daughter i would come to sunday afternoon so she wouldnt have to ride home with her mother.... holy crap it was weird!

  im sure all of this has been covered on the forum but to actually see it.... just wow.

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  I don't know whose idea it was, but they didn't translate any greetings in the movies to my local language, "hi" and "bye" all the time, sounds so unnatural with the rest of translated text. A family with two small kids was sitting near us, everytime someone said "bye" on the big screen, they waved back to screen with loud "byeeeeeeee!!!!" :)