I use to ask: "do you believe in The Bible, word of the God? If yes, please check Deuteronomy 18:18-22 and Epistle to Galatians 1:8, 9." There is plenty of examples for false predictions and "the new lights" known to rank&file JW, and to point to "the scriptures clearly said <quote from above>". That's for the start, once they start to think, i open other topics.
Posts by btlc
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26How to "turn the tables" on still-in witness who pry about our status.
by stuckinarut2 inso many of us have had (perhaps well-meaning) jws ask us questions about our inactivity, or lack of attendance at meetings.
they may pry about why..... how is this for a simple, yet straight to the point response?
to a sincere person, it may play on their mind and make them ask more questions.
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Time Gained by Leaving JW World
by Farmer Jim1 indoes anyone else wonder at the amount of time a person immediately gains when they leave the jws?.
just today, a sunday, i would have woken up at 7, frantically taken a highlighter pen to my wt to make it look like i had made a deep study of it.
packed my stuff for meeting and ministry, cycled to the kh, joined the pre meeting ministry arrangement, rushed back for the meeting, sat through a sometimes interesting public talk, sometimes mind-numbingly dull one, strained through a wt study to which i usually had more questions than answers.
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btlc
Fifteen years ago when I went inactive, I decided to spend same time and effort, once reserved for "theocratical things", to do something for myself, I finished my master degree on machinery easy, cum laude, got better job and salary, and I solved my existencial situation for good. Otherwise I would struggle in problems (like I was before) and would wait for the Armageddon to solve my problems.
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In one sentence, can you pinpoint a single event that woke you up?
by Brian J inmy turning point: serving on a child abuse judicial case.
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Generation change was the first hint, UN case was the final one.
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The John Cedars Channel on YouTube taken down after posting a critique of leaked videos for Regional (District) Convention
by oppostate inthe wt is at it again it seems.
playing dirty as it can, trying to silence dissenters.. the john cedars channel on youtube has been taken down after the posting of a video critique of regional (district) convention leaked videos.. sounds like something putin would do in russia.
you know what they say, birds of a feather fly together--what a murder of crows all of'em!.
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Fkin cultists always had an answer prepared. If you criticizing with bare hands, they say: lying apostates, where is the evidence? If you show part of material, they say: it is sliced out of context by mean apostates. If you show the whole show, they threat with charges because of copyright. The one and only true religion, yea right.
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Eldub that get stuck on a word or phrase!
by DwainBowman ineldub that get stuck on a word!.
over the years i have been around a few, that if a "big" or "unusual" word or phrase is used at the assembly or by a co/do, to stress a point.
then eldub "somebody" will use it at every meeting, if they can find a way to squeeze it into a part or commit.. most of them get over it after a few meetings.
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Once upon a time we had a foreign speaker at assembly, he always said 'epistle to 1st Chorinthians (Thessalonians, Timothy, Peter, John)' and 'epistle to 2nd ...' (in my language, that literary means "the first" and "the other" Chorinthians, Thessalonians, Timothy, Peter, John), instead of '1st or 2nd epistle to...'. Ofcourse, instead to correct him, some suckers started to talk same nonsense, it lasted for a few years.
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Jehovah's Witness dreams
by truthseeker ini'm pretty certain i'm not the only one here who experiences this.. i occasionally have jw dreams.
the most recent one was me giving a talk in my home congregation.
all i had on was my trousers (pants), socks and shoes.
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btlc
Sometimes I have dreams about going to field service, but much often about conventions held at unusual places, like hospitals, my old school, beaches, camps and so, we all sitting in waiting rooms or we seat everywhere around, with GB talks on the monitors at every corner. And I trying to find lavatory, or just some privacy to relief myself somewhere in the nature, but i can't, always someone opstruct me till I wake up with full bladder...
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Girls are unpredictable, materialist, and use us, men, as a toy - Part 3
by will-be-apostate ina year ago i had a rough time and posted this .
it was a controversial topic, some people got offended by my overly boastful tone, others offered help.
i appreciate any kind of opinion and i try to correct the flaws in my personality.
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You did a good job in a year!
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284000 baptized in 2017
by jw-verite inseen in the 03/2018 watchtower study :.
"during the 2017 service year, more than 284,000 “rightly disposed” individuals symbolized their dedication to jehovah by water baptism.".
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-march-2018/baptism-requirement-for-christians/.
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btlc
"the-door-is-closing-baptize-now-or-die" effect
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March 2018 Study Watchtower
by Listener inthe first study article is about getting bible studies and children baptized.
there is much more emphasis placed on parents to get their own children baptized rather than focusing on bible students.
they try to impress on others the need for urgency.
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Even God's son must waited till he was 30 to get baptized! He first finished his school, finished the training for job, made some business as carpenter, optionaly travel the world (to India and back), optionaly made some kids on the way, and THEN decided to get baptized. What a wonderfull example to follow!
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Pale.Emperor Meets The Mormons
by pale.emperor inwhen i was a jw i was fascinated with the mormon religion.
i never believed a word of it of course, but i was interested in their religion like most boys were interested in star wars.
i’ve read the book of mormon, doctrine & covenants, pearl of great price, book of abraham, watched their videos, read critical books by ex mormons etc etc… (strange at the time that i never did this with my own religion!
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Ten years ago two of them came to my door and left The Book of Mormon and some pamphlets. I read a first hundred pages till their next visit, and i noticed some chapters from The Book of Isaiah. Pamphlet said that J. Smith translated that text 1827 AD from original golden plates buried in 421 BCE. Wow, i said, that should be the oldest and the most accurate bible text. A little googling shows me just a KJV copy/paste, with all mistranslations and errors acceptable for early 17. century, but not for angel's guided, urim and thumim supported translation. And how ffs plates buried in 5th century BCE and dug out in 19th century AD can contain a text compiled in the mean time, in the 17th century AD, anyway? When i pointed to that, those two guys just standed up and they went away and never came back. And i lost my chance to improve my english for free...