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  My pimi brother asked his elders about the orgs data base of publishers....

  by nowwhat? in

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  and they said the organization would never do that.

  i thought all elders were in the loop by now.

  or did i miss interpret what's going on?.

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  Lol, my PIMI mother won't sign the "consent", my brother / her son (an elder in other state) tried to explain that's nothing big, but she still refuse :)
  
  Btw, elders was collecting personal info about 10-15 years ago (name, marital status, date of birth, address, phone numbers, e-mails, etc), they checked my data when i moved, no matter that i'm inactive for 17 years.
  
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  Lies from the watchtower

  by StephaneLaliberte in

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  i am interested in getting a list of lies that the watchtower has said or wrote in the past that could actually be proven to be as such, or, for the very least, deliberately misleading.

  1. in a morning worship lecture in 2015, stephen lett said .

  "rejecting false stories designed to separate us from jehovah's organization.

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  David Splane on "the generation":

  https://tv.jw.org/#en/mediaitems/StudioTalks/pub-jwban_201509_1_VIDEO

  notice 2:50 - 3:30, that dude basically said that baby is not alive 10 min before its birth.
  
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  How to "turn the tables" on still-in witness who pry about our status.

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. friends

  so many of us have had (perhaps well-meaning) jws ask us questions about our inactivity, or lack of attendance at meetings.

  they may pry about why..... how is this for a simple, yet straight to the point response?

  to a sincere person, it may play on their mind and make them ask more questions.

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  I use to ask: "do you believe in The Bible, word of the God? If yes, please check Deuteronomy 18:18-22 and Epistle to Galatians 1:8, 9." There is plenty of examples for false predictions and "the new lights" known to rank&file JW, and to point to "the scriptures clearly said <quote from above>". That's for the start, once they start to think, i open other topics.
  
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  Time Gained by Leaving JW World

  by Farmer Jim1 in

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  2. friends

  does anyone else wonder at the amount of time a person immediately gains when they leave the jws?.

  just today, a sunday, i would have woken up at 7, frantically taken a highlighter pen to my wt to make it look like i had made a deep study of it.

  packed my stuff for meeting and ministry, cycled to the kh, joined the pre meeting ministry arrangement, rushed back for the meeting, sat through a sometimes interesting public talk, sometimes mind-numbingly dull one, strained through a wt study to which i usually had more questions than answers.

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  Fifteen years ago when I went inactive, I decided to spend same time and effort, once reserved for "theocratical things", to do something for myself, I finished my master degree on machinery easy, cum laude, got better job and salary, and I solved my existencial situation for good. Otherwise I would struggle in problems (like I was before) and would wait for the Armageddon to solve my problems.
  
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  In one sentence, can you pinpoint a single event that woke you up?

  by Brian J in

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  my turning point: serving on a child abuse judicial case.

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  Generation change was the first hint, UN case was the final one.
  
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  The John Cedars Channel on YouTube taken down after posting a critique of leaked videos for Regional (District) Convention

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the wt is at it again it seems.

  playing dirty as it can, trying to silence dissenters.. the john cedars channel on youtube has been taken down after the posting of a video critique of regional (district) convention leaked videos.. sounds like something putin would do in russia.

  you know what they say, birds of a feather fly together--what a murder of crows all of'em!.

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  Fkin cultists always had an answer prepared. If you criticizing with bare hands, they say: lying apostates, where is the evidence? If you show part of material, they say: it is sliced out of context by mean apostates. If you show the whole show, they threat with charges because of copyright. The one and only true religion, yea right.
  
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  Eldub that get stuck on a word or phrase!

  by DwainBowman in

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  eldub that get stuck on a word!.

  over the years i have been around a few, that if a "big" or "unusual" word or phrase is used at the assembly or by a co/do, to stress a point.

  then eldub "somebody" will use it at every meeting, if they can find a way to squeeze it into a part or commit.. most of them get over it after a few meetings.

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  Once upon a time we had a foreign speaker at assembly, he always said 'epistle to 1st Chorinthians (Thessalonians, Timothy, Peter, John)' and 'epistle to 2nd ...' (in my language, that literary means "the first" and "the other" Chorinthians, Thessalonians, Timothy, Peter, John), instead of '1st or 2nd epistle to...'. Ofcourse, instead to correct him, some suckers started to talk same nonsense, it lasted for a few years.
  
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  Jehovah's Witness dreams

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm pretty certain i'm not the only one here who experiences this.. i occasionally have jw dreams.

  the most recent one was me giving a talk in my home congregation.

  all i had on was my trousers (pants), socks and shoes.

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  Sometimes I have dreams about going to field service, but much often about conventions held at unusual places, like hospitals, my old school, beaches, camps and so, we all sitting in waiting rooms or we seat everywhere around, with GB talks on the monitors at every corner. And I trying to find lavatory, or just some privacy to relief myself somewhere in the nature, but i can't, always someone opstruct me till I wake up with full bladder...
  
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  Girls are unpredictable, materialist, and use us, men, as a toy - Part 3

  by will-be-apostate in

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  a year ago i had a rough time and posted this .

  it was a controversial topic, some people got offended by my overly boastful tone, others offered help.

  i appreciate any kind of opinion and i try to correct the flaws in my personality.

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  You did a good job in a year!
  
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  284000 baptized in 2017

  by jw-verite in

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  2. beliefs

  seen in the 03/2018 watchtower study :.

  "during the 2017 service year, more than 284,000 “rightly disposed” individuals symbolized their dedication to jehovah by water baptism.".

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-march-2018/baptism-requirement-for-christians/.

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  "the-door-is-closing-baptize-now-or-die" effect