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  Do KHs lock their doors when meeting starts now?

  by NikL in

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  my still in wife informed me this morning that she must be on time to the meeting as they are locking the door when it starts now.. i said that's crazy.

  she said it's because of the times we are living in.. we live in a rural area and crime isn't terrible though it's worse than it used to be.. i told her if that's the way it is then why bother leaving the house at all?.

  she said they are just trying to be safe.. is this a thing now?

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  There is two KH in my town, one has just one floor with massive one way view glass side entrance, visible from last rows, and it is not locked during the meetings.
  
  Other one has two floors, 1st with apartment for CO, lavatory, desk for literature, office, etc. and 2nd floor with hall, and entrance is locked during the meetings, the ringer is LED blink visible from last rows. There is also an emergency one way exit on the back - some older folks use those when they are late and knock like hell during opening prayer :)

  I think the most of this security measures is demanded by insurance policy, rather than some freaking cult paranoia.
  
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  What is the strangest picture drawn or other you ever saw in a JW article?

  by blownaway in

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  what is the strangest picture drawn or other you ever saw in a jw article?.

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  Awake! January 8, 2003, page 23, J. F. Rutherford behind his Cadillac V16
  
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  What is the strangest picture drawn or other you ever saw in a JW article?

  by blownaway in

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  what is the strangest picture drawn or other you ever saw in a jw article?.

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  Sing Praises to Jehovah, songbook, inside cover, mysterious foots, second pair from right.
  
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  Do any of the 144,000 in heaven take part in the destruction at Armageddon?

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

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  i wondered about that when i heard garret loesch state that shortly before the tribulation the governing body would be taken up.

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  if this is the case, it seems like garret and the other seven would be there just in time to help out in the killing of billions.. i thought they used to say that some would survive armageddon before they were taken up..

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  "Without a doubt, when the time comes, those of Christ's brothers already in heaven will have a part in shepherding people and nations with that iron rod." - re 281
  
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  Daily Text

  by Sauerkraut in

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  sometimes i still take a quick glance at the daily test, usually to remind myself what i don't miss.

  yesterday's and today's texts caught my eye, they were both very guilt inducing, as usual.. yesterday's text:.

  "thursday, october 18- here i am!

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  @waton: but it, the generation, will not survive, by their own admission

  good point
  
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  New World Translation REVISED Editions

  by Wonderment in

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  i have noticed some posters (with frustration) asking for information regarding the nwt in various language editions.

  here is a list of some of the nwt revised language editions published so far:.

  albanian; arabic; armenian; chinese traditional 2017; danish 2017; dutch-netherlands 2017; estonian; haitian creole; italian 2017; korean 2014; modern greek 2017; norwegian 2017; portuguese 2015; romanian; russian; swahili 2017; swedish 2017; ukrainian; vietnamese.. not yet published: .

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  @fastJehu - thank you very much! and thanks to @MeanMrMustard for a great work!
  
  I compared that sample to my (small) language (2006 the first complete edition, translated from the 1984 NWT) and it seems to me pretty much closer to 2013 Edition english vocabular, there is simply no room for any improvement worth a new edition, since it include the most of the appendixs and references from the 1984 "reference edition". And we got the same edition, "gray leather" reprint 2011, so my ETA for 2013 edition on my language is like never.
  
  About other "big" languages (beside english), they already have a dozens of translations of very good quality and people are familiar with them, issuing a "new" edition with inserted pamphlets could be considered as a retrograde move. I can understand if someone at the branches hesitates to give a final aproving.
  
  Native african and asian small languages, on the other hand, usualy have poor or incomplete translations, so Watchtower targeted them to make NWT as a their standard luxury leather Bible, soaked with JW interpretation and propaganda. Dishonest and good for bussiness move, I would say.
  
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  New World Translation REVISED Editions

  by Wonderment in

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  i have noticed some posters (with frustration) asking for information regarding the nwt in various language editions.

  here is a list of some of the nwt revised language editions published so far:.

  albanian; arabic; armenian; chinese traditional 2017; danish 2017; dutch-netherlands 2017; estonian; haitian creole; italian 2017; korean 2014; modern greek 2017; norwegian 2017; portuguese 2015; romanian; russian; swahili 2017; swedish 2017; ukrainian; vietnamese.. not yet published: .

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  Anyone knows whats the difference between Revised NWT and 1984 Edition? Beside inserted pamphlets and colored Appendix? There is some textual changes, but it is english specific, i don't know how much these changes affects to existing translations.
  
  Btw, the most of the "obscure" languages on that list:
  
  https://www.jw.org/download/?fileformat=PDF&output=html&pub=nwt&option=TRGCHlZRQVNYVrXF
  
  didn't have complete NWT prior 2013, just a "part" (the new testament), so that is the very first complete NWT to them.
  
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  Lies from the watchtower

  by StephaneLaliberte in

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  i am interested in getting a list of lies that the watchtower has said or wrote in the past that could actually be proven to be as such, or, for the very least, deliberately misleading.

  1. in a morning worship lecture in 2015, stephen lett said .

  "rejecting false stories designed to separate us from jehovah's organization.

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  I know the generation is spectacularly senseless by anyone outside of the JW org, yet, it is not a lie. It is a religious belief.
  

  my point wasn't "the generation" itself, but the statement that baby wasn't alive 10 minutes before its birth ;)
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  My pimi brother asked his elders about the orgs data base of publishers....

  by nowwhat? in

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  and they said the organization would never do that.

  i thought all elders were in the loop by now.

  or did i miss interpret what's going on?.

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  Lol, my PIMI mother won't sign the "consent", my brother / her son (an elder in other state) tried to explain that's nothing big, but she still refuse :)
  
  Btw, elders was collecting personal info about 10-15 years ago (name, marital status, date of birth, address, phone numbers, e-mails, etc), they checked my data when i moved, no matter that i'm inactive for 17 years.
  
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  Lies from the watchtower

  by StephaneLaliberte in

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  i am interested in getting a list of lies that the watchtower has said or wrote in the past that could actually be proven to be as such, or, for the very least, deliberately misleading.

  1. in a morning worship lecture in 2015, stephen lett said .

  "rejecting false stories designed to separate us from jehovah's organization.

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  David Splane on "the generation":

  https://tv.jw.org/#en/mediaitems/StudioTalks/pub-jwban_201509_1_VIDEO

  notice 2:50 - 3:30, that dude basically said that baby is not alive 10 min before its birth.