Actually, they weren't wrong much. C.T.Russell never planed or intended a "religion" or "organization" like JW.borg, and his belives was quite different than JW's in 1930's and later. Some years after his death, in the 1920's, especially after 1925 fiasco, 3/4 of the Bible Students left "The Watchtower", and the rest (of the rest) received new name, "Jehovah's Witnesses" 1931 by the Rutherford, who has usurpated "The Watchtower" society for personal benefits and promotion and who established "the organization" as we know today. Of course, I doubt that your ladies know anything of the above. I doubt that they even know who is who.
Posts by btlc
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39Two JW`s called at my door today
by smiddy3 inthe wife and i were expecting a health worker to call at our door 10:30 this morning and about 10;35 two women appeared at our door so i opened up thinking they were who i expected ,so i was take back a bit being caught off guard when they identified themselves as doing a bible work.. this is just the gist of what took place & not a word for word conversation.. a woman about in her fifties her companion about her twenties.the older woman did most of the talking as she read to me the scripture from her phone " in the last days critical times hard to deal with...etc.etc.and she went back and emphasised that we were living in the last days because of what that scripture said.. i made the comment that the scripture just about sums up human history in any given time.then i went on to say that this day and age is the best time in human history overall given the advances in technology ,medical procedures ,the overall standard of living being higher and so on .but they insisted on we were living in the last days.then i said different religions have been claiming that for the past couple hundred years.. then to throw them a curve ball i asked if they were mormons ?
oh no we are jehovah`s witnesses.had i been prepared for them and not caught out unawares i would have taken a different tact.i then asked the older woman how long she has been a witness and she said 36 years so i then said to her you must have seen a lot of changes in your religion during that time which she agreed with.
( the light gets brighter).
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Subliminal Messaging
by truthlover123 infor over 20 years subliminal pictures showed up in most books, wt, and awakes- eighties, nineties and into 2000's.... demons, gods, you name it-- .
question: is anyone seeing anything like this in todays publications?
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btlc
Now something from different category, article "Autos, past and present", Awake! 08.01.2003
and familiar face beyond luxury Cadillac
Must admit two things:
1) WT leaders have a good taste when is about to spend contributions money
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chelmsford progress
by stan livedeath indoes anyone have an update on the developement in chelmsford?.
i'm always keenly slightly interested in hearing about jehovahs blessings..
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btlc
Lol on the comments under the article, just like comments on the meeting, self glorifying crap. I wonder how much female civil engineers and supervisors are there or any other JW construction site.
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Subliminal Messaging
by truthlover123 infor over 20 years subliminal pictures showed up in most books, wt, and awakes- eighties, nineties and into 2000's.... demons, gods, you name it-- .
question: is anyone seeing anything like this in todays publications?
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btlc
My favorite, old brown songbook cover:
mysterious 2nd pair of legs from the right
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Videos Remove on Rutube now Available Again
by blondie inhttps://truthandtransparency.org/news/2019/5/29/2019-jehovahs-witness-convention-videos-published-again-after-successful-takedown-request.
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btlc
Reading something completely different:
https://www.un.org/documents/ga/docs/51/plenary/a51-542.htm
i found on the very end of the document: "Reproduction and dissemination of the document - in electronic and/or printed format - is encouraged, provided acknowledgement is made of the role of the United Nations in making it available." But the UN is just a Satan's tool to attack God's Organization any time soon...
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Alternate military service pre and post 1996 witness policies. Please comments.
by benny inwhat are the thoughts on the changes made by the society in the 1996 watchtower [new light] where one can then accept alternate army service where before you would have to be sentenced to do this.
i feel many were sent to prison needlessly or even executed.
this was not a matter of conscience as the watchtower claims..
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btlc
In my country (SE Europe) military service was mandatory till 1997. I delayed my military invitations as much as I can, but in the summer 1997 police came and packed me to military base where I was prisoned 8 days. I had talks with some high ranked military heads, and I had oportunity to explain our standing (as JW, I was devouted in that time), that we don't reject service to our homeland, just we can't service under military department, but we can accept pure civilian service. I was releised, and few months later i was assigned to 15 months service in Center for disabled persons (mostly Down sindrom and autistic people) 10 min drive from my home. I was the 6th in my country who was assigned for pure civil service and the 1st who actualy finished it. It was positive experience after all.
I really don't know how I would explain the "old light" if military got me prior the 1996, I never understood how rotting in the prison is better than doing something usefull for community.
Years later when I discovered WT-UN scandal, I found that in same time (mid '90ties) UN demanded from several countries (mine included) to lose pressure on JW about military service and made available pure civilian service instead. Check points 30, 34 on this document dated 23 October 1996:
https://www.un.org/documents/ga/docs/51/plenary/a51-542.htm
I can't get rid of the impression that the "new light" about civilian service was just an agreement (compromise) between JW and UN - at least one good thing out of that scandal... -
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What Views or Beliefs Do Jehovah’s Witnesses No Longer Teach?
by minimus inevidently they have changed their creative day from being 7000 years per day.
all blood transfusions were taboo but now blood fractions might be allowed to be taken into the body.
vaccinations were sinful at one time but not now.. can you name other views or beliefs that have changed from being considered “truth” to no longer “the truth “?.
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Good source for digging: Beliefs Clarified, Watch Tower Publications Index
1930-1985
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200028612
1986-2019
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'Organisation is our mother'
by EdenOne ini need your help please, for an article i'm writing.. i believe that quite recently in the 2010's, possibly at one of the annual meetings of the watchtower, there was one speech (or was it in a publication?
in a broadcast?
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Worldwide Security Under the “Prince of Peace” p. 169:
18 [...] Jesus Christ [...] In this capacity he can fulfill Isaiah’s prophecy and become the “Eternal Father” to the first Adam’s offspring, whom he repurchases and adopts for the purpose of bestowing perfect human life on a paradise earth.
19 In such a way the heavenly Father of Jesus Christ will become the heavenly Grandfather of the restored human family. [...]
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So, the Organization becomes grandma, and 144000 becomes mom? Weird family...
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what prevents me from getting baptized?
by road to nowhere intodays wt what a bunch of hooey.
try: nobody can explain the beliefs from the bible; there are lots of "rules" beyond tdhe ones on morals enforced(beards, movies),.
the "gifts in men" are in the least incompetent overworked well meaning; but others are overbearing power hungry bullies.
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btlc
With last update on baptism questions, WT made it really simple and not so demanding, to suit under aged and aliens who doesn't or can't understand what they are doing - there is no more "on the basis" to belive in ransome (or understand it), no expressing of willing to do "Jehovah's will", and no more Holy Spirit threat over your baptism. We will see what fruits will bring that lowering of the criteria for future candidats.
