I'm the Joel Martz listed in Lloyd's BS scheme. I'll sign. Show me where.
Pasta_Hour
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Pasta_Hour
M7 extortion victim/criminal defendant here checking in. Haven't caught up on this post in the last couple of months, but this morning I invested some time and spit some coffee more than a few times bringing myself up to speed.
With that being said, put me down for -14. That is one of Lloyd's favorite numbers after all.
Glad to see the case was apparently dropped. Anyone with even mildly functioning neurons knew this would always be the end result. Has anyone as of yet gotten their hands on the official ruling?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Pasta_Hour
Lloydparody asked a good question. "Who is so stupid to believe this charlatan?" It seemed like a good 95% of the people posting on exjw forums and comment sections did! This is why I still foment a hatred of Reddit. Anything contrary to the Lloyd narrative was disallowed. A bunch of hypocrites whining about being shunned by their families, mumbling something about how bad shunning and information control is, all while actively muzzling people, acting as the exjw thought police. And if it wasn't Reddit, it was facebook forums ran by goons that couldn't get enough brownnosing Lloyd. It was pathetic.
I know Mark Odonnel was mentioned a little while ago here, and I'm sure "he does great work" and whatever- but let's be real. The Fannypack Man™ spent YEARS sitting front row for Lloy'd antics. He had to have been fully aware of how Lloyd treated people, the Crisis Of Conscience copyright fiasco, and other instances best summed up as Lloyd being a flat out dick. Note of this is even to mention the red flags in Lloyd's story. Time and again people chose to make excuses for Lloyd's behavior. LOL at O'donnel making the declarative statement last year that any notion of Lloyd being a nonce was untrue. Ehhhmm...exactly how would he know that was a factual statement? His videos were just that good I guess. It lead me to believe it's about money to many people. Can you help me get clicks and views? This person can add to my subscriber list, sell books, or lend me media credibility?
I'm tempted to be bitter towards the exjw community for not noticing any of this sooner, but then I realize Lloyd even fooled the Cult Expert Steven Hassan.
The problem to me seems that as long as there's money to be made in something, you'll always have a section of the population willing to make it in slimey ways. Anyways, rant over.
Yes all indications are Marko is authentic. And if Marko is authentic then the emails are authentic. And if the emails are authentic then it seems likely the Watchtower involved itself in an international coverup instead of taking Lloyd to the authorities. Just how else would Marko know specific details that were verified true only years later? If the "Evanston/Rebecca" emails were originally screenshotted by Dijana, with the emails then sent from Dijana's email to her cousin asking "WTF", then it's little wonder she doesn't want to admit her role in a coverup. The idea the brothers were completely unaware of the emails and thus level of Lloyd's activities seems very unlikely. Somewhere, there is an electronic papertrail of all of this. The authorities shouldn't have a difficult time sorting it out either way. Happy to be wrong on all of this, but I don't think I am.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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@kimsilvio I'm going to cross my fingers you have screenshots. This is huge if big. Tends to prove Marko's authenticity.
What exactly did Dijana tell you?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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Pasta_Hour
@kimsilvio That screenshot is from circa 2017, from the whistleblower "Marko".. He left the post on the facebook group for our old podcast (along with others, I think they've already been posted previously in this thread)
Just curious as to what Dijana told you (if anything) surrounding the circumstances of their leaving the UK. According to Marko, Dijana left Lloyd and went back to Croatia, with Lloyd showing up afterwards on her doorstep begging for her back. Marko's story clearly doesn't jive with Lloyd's story, so just wondering if Dijana had ever mentioned anything to you if I might be so bold to ask.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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Kim Silvio: I am curious as to the story Dijana told you regarding their move to Croatia. Does it by any chance happen to line up with what the whistleblower Marko had to say on the subject? According to "Marko", Dijana left Lloyd and he showed up at her door in Croatia. Do you have any insight on this?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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hang on getting popcorn for this one. JeffT: Lloyd makes online book sales.
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Pasta_Hour
"This threads needs archived and locked. We are done with him."
Who is "we", white man?
Follow/read who you want, but let's not do this "we" stuff" as if you speak for anyone besides yourself.
Lloyd whipped his audience into bullying and harassing people for years. Lots of stuff happened behind the scenes. I'm not sure it's fair telling people to just "move on" when he's attempting to push "criminal" lawsuits. I guess if it hasn't affected you personally there is a point it seems like drama. He isn't "helping" people, he's inflicting additional trauma.
The guy in question is a predator. 100%
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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I hope this exmo moderator team was paid well for their efforts. Zero allowance for criticisms or questions of Lloyd. It seems to me they were aware Lloyd was dirty and promoted him anyway. The episode was pretty boring. Vapid, hollow, uninteresting. They ranted against religious groups controlling information while simultaneously locking down and controlling information in the comments section.
"pls.. help me, fellow atheists who don't ask too many questions about me.." is what Lloyd has been reduced to.