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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

I just felt like you all deserve an update post. Kind of "where I am and why I care" anyway as regards my involvement in the M7 now with repeat offender status when it comes to being caught in Lloyd's legal crosshairs.

[adds "reprobate apostate" to resume]

I first discovered people making exjovah videos on youtube back in 2008. At the time I was knees deep trying to get a security clearance so I could fly army helicopters, so I declined to make content of my own other than some cringy but still funny cartoons. I made them to make my friends laugh. Quick background: I wasn't considering myself some "activist" or looking to be paid (And "The Vast Apostate Army" was nothing more than a tongue in cheek meme type thing for a lot of people who made videos griping about the Watchtower, it was never any one person, or as I've seen others suggest, me.) What really held my fascination was the fantastic debates to be found between people that shared my experience. It was cathartic for a while, and looking back I'd consider it a part of my healing process. Eventually though, I showed my face under a moniker made some commentary videos over a martini or two, and started to rebuild what I thought was some sort of social circle of like minds.

I witnessed first hand Lloyd's rise to assholedom. The people in this thread previously suggesting he fits the profile of a narcissist are probably on to something. I won't rehash the entire thing, but if you are interested in a rundown of what transpired between Lloyd and I, Kameron Fader on youtube has the video where we get into it.

As for my involvement in our Warwick stunt and resulting nationally broadcast award winning most successful expose: Once upon a time I thought people could work together to raise awareness and do something meaningful if they did anything at all.

See it for what it is. Lloyd has caused divisions in the exjw scene that have hurt people, sure. He's managed to manipulate and sour relationships. He's engaged in doxxing (thanks for those defamatory blog posts your wrote about me Lloyd, damage was done. I have hardline jw family that won't talk to me since you outed my first and last name. Zing! I owe you for that one buddy!) He's grifted to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars now using his status as an elder for a year who coincidentally for some reason fled his home country within weeks of something that required a Watchtower corporate rep to be present for. And he can't stop talking about sex, and freely details his masturbatory habits to his audience. You do know who I am talking about here, right? The "Reluctant Apostate", John Cedars, AKA Lloyd Evans?

"Who cares, so what, he's a dick" you might say. And I'd agree. Is it just that simple tho? Are we all just sharing some mass communal psychosis in this forum now 1000 pages deep? nah

This guy is reckless in his pursuit of donations, and I'll explain. Lloyd Evans uses CSA victims to his own benefit. "For only $150 you too can sell your soul, and have your story published in my book! Have you gone to the police yet? Who cares! Because I'm not even asking!" Obvious question perhaps, but what happens when these people decide to come forward to the authorities after something like that? The internet is forever, and don't think a defense attorney isn't going to chew the victim's toes off over something like that. Consciously, or unconsciously, the guy behaves as an agent saboteur.

Lloyd tried to embed himself like a tick into IICSA. Is anyone familiar with the fallout over that when he admitted he was enabling the sex-trafficking industry? Reference my above point, and ask then what stood to go REALLY WRONG, LEGAL LIABILITY SPEAKING?

To think that this rat fink has raised money off a community of people who went through what we went through? My name and my friends names?

lol Lloyd: I know you're reading this, we got the receipts- we always were going to :)

I just want to say THANK YOU for helping us get access to the Croatian legal paperwork and everyone's continued interest and input in this subject. I get a real kick out of seeing rando youtubers and the people at Kiwi Farms connecting the dots to what's going on! At the end of the day, I think former members of any cult should be cheering each other on in life. Not tearing them down or seeking to profit from other's misery. Life is hard enough and it's our job to heal and move on in life. We were promised paradise on earth, found out it was BS. I'm only interested in creating my own personal paradise while I have the time, and I hope you are too.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Pasta_Hour

I'm the Joel Martz listed in Lloyd's BS scheme. I'll sign. Show me where.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Pasta_Hour

M7 extortion victim/criminal defendant here checking in. Haven't caught up on this post in the last couple of months, but this morning I invested some time and spit some coffee more than a few times bringing myself up to speed.

With that being said, put me down for -14. That is one of Lloyd's favorite numbers after all.

Glad to see the case was apparently dropped. Anyone with even mildly functioning neurons knew this would always be the end result. Has anyone as of yet gotten their hands on the official ruling?

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Pasta_Hour

Lloydparody asked a good question. "Who is so stupid to believe this charlatan?" It seemed like a good 95% of the people posting on exjw forums and comment sections did! This is why I still foment a hatred of Reddit. Anything contrary to the Lloyd narrative was disallowed. A bunch of hypocrites whining about being shunned by their families, mumbling something about how bad shunning and information control is, all while actively muzzling people, acting as the exjw thought police. And if it wasn't Reddit, it was facebook forums ran by goons that couldn't get enough brownnosing Lloyd. It was pathetic.

I know Mark Odonnel was mentioned a little while ago here, and I'm sure "he does great work" and whatever- but let's be real. The Fannypack Man™ spent YEARS sitting front row for Lloy'd antics. He had to have been fully aware of how Lloyd treated people, the Crisis Of Conscience copyright fiasco, and other instances best summed up as Lloyd being a flat out dick. Note of this is even to mention the red flags in Lloyd's story. Time and again people chose to make excuses for Lloyd's behavior. LOL at O'donnel making the declarative statement last year that any notion of Lloyd being a nonce was untrue. Ehhhmm...exactly how would he know that was a factual statement? His videos were just that good I guess. It lead me to believe it's about money to many people. Can you help me get clicks and views? This person can add to my subscriber list, sell books, or lend me media credibility?

I'm tempted to be bitter towards the exjw community for not noticing any of this sooner, but then I realize Lloyd even fooled the Cult Expert Steven Hassan.

The problem to me seems that as long as there's money to be made in something, you'll always have a section of the population willing to make it in slimey ways. Anyways, rant over.

Yes all indications are Marko is authentic. And if Marko is authentic then the emails are authentic. And if the emails are authentic then it seems likely the Watchtower involved itself in an international coverup instead of taking Lloyd to the authorities. Just how else would Marko know specific details that were verified true only years later? If the "Evanston/Rebecca" emails were originally screenshotted by Dijana, with the emails then sent from Dijana's email to her cousin asking "WTF", then it's little wonder she doesn't want to admit her role in a coverup. The idea the brothers were completely unaware of the emails and thus level of Lloyd's activities seems very unlikely. Somewhere, there is an electronic papertrail of all of this. The authorities shouldn't have a difficult time sorting it out either way. Happy to be wrong on all of this, but I don't think I am.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Pasta_Hour

@kimsilvio I'm going to cross my fingers you have screenshots. This is huge if big. Tends to prove Marko's authenticity.

What exactly did Dijana tell you?

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Pasta_Hour

@kimsilvio That screenshot is from circa 2017, from the whistleblower "Marko".. He left the post on the facebook group for our old podcast (along with others, I think they've already been posted previously in this thread)

Just curious as to what Dijana told you (if anything) surrounding the circumstances of their leaving the UK. According to Marko, Dijana left Lloyd and went back to Croatia, with Lloyd showing up afterwards on her doorstep begging for her back. Marko's story clearly doesn't jive with Lloyd's story, so just wondering if Dijana had ever mentioned anything to you if I might be so bold to ask.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Pasta_Hour

Kim Silvio: I am curious as to the story Dijana told you regarding their move to Croatia. Does it by any chance happen to line up with what the whistleblower Marko had to say on the subject? According to "Marko", Dijana left Lloyd and he showed up at her door in Croatia. Do you have any insight on this?

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