Thank you Atlantis, for sharing this information
I will drink a good coctail before going to the meetings
2016 march 7, through march 28, answer sheet.. .
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.. .. 2016 revised talk outlines.
Thank you Atlantis, for sharing this information
I will drink a good coctail before going to the meetings
so it's official, i am happy to report that we merged with another congregation having the same problem.
why is it good news???
because people are either waking up, fading or just not buying into this organization any longer or walking away.... i think many young ones are just not buying into it as much, i see many in the congregation i go to very depressed and some i know personally going thru major depression especially the young "sisters" in their early 20s.... .
Also in Europe, they are merging Congregations.. Example: where 2 congregations at the same Hall, and there is a lack of attendance in one of these Congregations, they are merged into one Congregation, and they use the standard procedure: you has to go to the Congregation whe assigned you.. Listen and obey strategy was used by the CO.
the brothers and sisters, who didn't agree with this decision, was told by a talk from the CO, that not obeying this decisions from the GB, could have an impact on the way Jehovah thinks about us, in the future when Har Magheddon is coming..
i told one publisher of that Congregation, who didn't agree, and was shocked about that talk from the CO, that this manipulative talk, that has no biblical ground of course, is used to force publishers to do what their strategy is at this moment, their projects they are working on (Warwick, and others), and their future projects on the African Continent, and other places. And every penny, they can get, in merging Congregations, and in some cases sell Kingdom-Halls, they don't need anymore is used to save money...
Like I said to that publisher on a ironic way: They are telling publishers to listen and obey, , but the fact that they are building, and a lot of projects in the future is saying a lot of themselves, I don't think that they really believe that Har-Magheddon is at the corner anymore.
They are more and more becoming a secularised religion, that is their ultimately goal.
http://m.hawaiinewsnow.com/hawaiinewsnow/db_330510/contentdetail.htm?full=true&contentguid=l1jefdzq&pn=&ps=#display.
honolulu (hawaiinewsnow) - the roman catholic church has reached settlements in 30 lawsuits filed by people in hawaii who claim they were sexually abused by priests decades ago when they were children.. they are among 63 people who have made abuse allegations against priests in 40 lawsuits, according to legal documents obtained by hawaii news now.. some of the cases have been reported in the media, such as the 2012 lawsuit filed by mark pinkosh claiming two priests at st. anthony church in kailua sexually abused him.. pinkosh said when he told then-father joseph ferrario that another priest had raped him, ferrario told him to keep the incidents secret and then ferrario raped him.
ferrario, who is now deceased, went on to become the bishop of the catholic church in hawaii.
Thank you for sharing this information Barbara..
It's so sad, and so disgusting..
http://www.peoplexpress.it/2016/01/26/le-iene-pelazza-servizio-choc-sui-testimoni-di-geova-quando-una-religione-ti-toglie-la-liberta-video/.
google translated into english below.
article in italian at the end.
Leve the playing field: This is a summary of that program:
first you see two sisters in the field service dressed in a mini skirt, and the other in a pantalon...
Then there is a fragment of a meeting of two elders, with two persons involved, in having sex, in one case, and in the other case they didn't had sex, but did other things that are considered immoral, according the Jw rules.. The point was that the elders asked questions about the details, what they specifically did..
then a psychologist , involved in cult matters, is giving more information about mind control, and how it works..
then a case of sexual abuse is brought up by the reporter, but when he went to to parents to know more about the story, you can see that the parents don't give answers, and an elder thakes them in the Kingdom Hall.
the reporter try also to speak to interview one elder of that congregation. But he don't give any comments, and he looked embarrased too, in my eyes...
Barbara: why this is not professional journalism:
if you want to make a program about covering up molestation, then you have a good example in Portugal, this was for me professional journalism..
but here you have fragments of a a meeting of elders, with JW's confessing their sins.. The reporter is telling that this was a Juidicial committee, but this has not neccesary be the case, and I think that it is only a suggestion of the reporter. In a juidicial case 3 elders are involved.
about the molestation case: The reporter was suggesting that the JW's is forbidden to go to the authority to denounce the molestation: This is not true, he would be more correct in saying that the elders has to contact the branch, and that they are not encouraged from the branch to go to the police. But that individual publishers can surely go to the police, without any sanction from the elders.
with this in mind about proffessional journalism, I wan't deny the fact that we have a problem within the JW organisation with the molestation issue, and with the procedures in handling these cases, and that cooperation with the Justice must be improved..
http://www.peoplexpress.it/2016/01/26/le-iene-pelazza-servizio-choc-sui-testimoni-di-geova-quando-una-religione-ti-toglie-la-liberta-video/.
google translated into english below.
article in italian at the end.
Hey barbara,
I have a note on the TV program le iene: Its a program that has the goal, to denounce, but often is not so accurate, very sensational, It's not considered professional giornalism in Italy..
There where a lot of innaccuracies, if you watch that program..
A positive note: 2 millions Italian have watch that program, and will be alerted about the pedofilia problem, also in Italy..
I hope one day: quarto grado(very proffesional Journalism,), on mediaset will make a reportage, on this issue..
http://www.peoplexpress.it/2016/01/26/le-iene-pelazza-servizio-choc-sui-testimoni-di-geova-quando-una-religione-ti-toglie-la-liberta-video/.
google translated into english below.
article in italian at the end.
Thanks, barbara, for the information..
Normally I watch this program, le iene on a regular basis, but this week I haven't watch it.. But I al very curious to watch it..
I think that it will be discussed on the Italian tgd blogs..
I will take a look ....
Una buona serata...
just in case someone wanted this letter for their records.
.. http://postimg.org/image/dn44a9m9h/.
.. petra!.
Thank you Atlantis, for your confirmation..
on the Italian blog: proclamatore consapevole, they mentioned also this same letter.. A few days ago..
But like mentioned before this is a typical example of a flip flop situation..
They are loosing more and more credibility by thinking publishers
boe 2016-01-15 re: new feature on jw.org for processing recommendations of elders and ministerial servants.
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thanks ich3b!.
Thank you wifibandit!
full set: http://imgur.com/a/djhfe.
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