For me, I think it depends on whether or not I was born into a religious household. Like if I were born Baptist and really believed, I might listen to the JW's when the came knocking and perhaps would have converted.
juandefiero
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"If I wasn't born a JW, I would never have become one."
by OneEyedJoe ini've seen it mentioned by a few on the forum that at some point there was a realization that had they not been born a jw, they never would've converted no matter how many times the jws tried to study with them.
this was my experience too, and i'm wondering how universal it is for those that were born-in but eventually left.
i think i started having this thought (more specifically that if i were not born a jw, i would surely have become an atheist by now) in my late teens.
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Proof the earth can be flat
by slimboyfat in"our perception of reality has more to do with what is going on in here (our brain) than what's going on out there (in the world).".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03g221y.
is it a dark square or a light square?
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juandefiero
If by "flat" you mean level and by "earth" you mean the ground, then yes, the "earth" can be "flat."
All you need is a level, a shovel and some time and patience, and that little patch of earth can be flat.
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Starlight in a Young Universe
by Perry inthe scientific method begins with a faith statement called a hypothesis, and then goes on to look for evidence, for or against support of the faith statement.. secular materialists often change their ideas on exactly how things have made themselves, but never whether they did.. the manifesto for this self imposed mental ban seems to be summed up by geneticist richard lewontin:.
‘our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural.
we take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism.. it is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated.
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juandefiero
Over the past 10 years, I have gathered tremendous evidence and victories that prove this to be a true statement.
Anecdotal or empirical evidence? There is a difference.
For instance, if Science went by anecdotal evidence, our drug stores would be filled with snake oil.
Religion == Snake Oil.
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Starlight in a Young Universe
by Perry inthe scientific method begins with a faith statement called a hypothesis, and then goes on to look for evidence, for or against support of the faith statement.. secular materialists often change their ideas on exactly how things have made themselves, but never whether they did.. the manifesto for this self imposed mental ban seems to be summed up by geneticist richard lewontin:.
‘our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural.
we take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism.. it is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated.
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juandefiero
So, nothing can travel past the speed of light, they say.
What about a wheel? the center of the wheel travels at a certain speed, but the outside of the wheel goes faster than the center.
The larger the diameter of the wheel, the faster the outside goes.
so, one would only have to create a big enough wheel, and accelerate the hub to a certain speed...whereas the outside would be going even faster.
I suppose physics would prevent you from accelerating the hub to the speed required to get the outside going FTL.
Nevermind.
I had 3 Red Bulls this morning. Don't mind me.
Although, if I have one more Red Bull, I'll be moving faster than light.
If wheels turn at the speed of light, why are there still wheels?
**drops mic**
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Theism is a Fact #1
by cofty innope sorry i got nothing.. wouldn't it be really interesting though if somewhere there was a theist who could challenge unbelievers with facts and evidence?.
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FACT: Jesus helped me with my constipation this morning. All I had to do was scream his name. Eventually, it worked. -
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Is proselytizing less condescending when evolutionists do it?
by paul from cleveland inis it just me?
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juandefiero
How does one acknowledging that there are still things we don't know and have yet to discover make them a theist?
That's one of the most asinine, idiotic statements I've read on this thread.
Clambake: do you actually know the definition of a theist? Because I don't think you do.
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Congrats to Kim Mikey!
by awake!watcher incongrats to kim mikey, mike and kim reached 3000 subscribers on their youtube channel!
go check em out!
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juandefiero
Almost didn't scroll down far enough to see those cartoons, Simon, thinking they were ads at first. lol
Good ones!
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Is proselytizing less condescending when evolutionists do it?
by paul from cleveland inis it just me?
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juandefiero
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Is proselytizing less condescending when evolutionists do it?
by paul from cleveland inis it just me?
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juandefiero
Evolution can't explain why Han Solo had to be frozen in Carbonite! Therefore, Evolution isn't true! -
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Is proselytizing less condescending when evolutionists do it?
by paul from cleveland inis it just me?
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juandefiero
Evolution doesn’t explain an orderly universe with suitable physical laws, A fine-tuned universe, including initial conditions and physical parameters necessary for carbon-based life, a suitable planet, such as Earth, orbiting a suitable star and capable of supporting life and the existence of life in the first place.
Evolution is the study of speciation and has nothing to do with cosmology or abiogenesis. So, in that sense, you are correct. Evolution doesn't explain these things because by definition it doesn't attempt to explain those things.
It also doesn’t explain the self-awareness of man and how one creature seems to have domain over this planet.
Yes, it does. Natural selection. A species that is self-aware is more likely to survive and dominate over a species that is not self aware.
If you want to talk about one creature having domain over this planet, I suggest you look at insects. At any time, it is estimated that there are some 10 quintillion (10,000,000,000,000,000,000) individual insects alive.
Believing in something that exists outside of time and space isn’t really as unreasonable as it sounds.
It's not unreasonable if you have evidence for what you're claiming. Do you?
