Look at the absolute path of destruction created by one miserable fat ass and his micro cult. IMHO ex JW's don't need to all work together like one big happy family or professional corporation but think of how much could have been accomplished by so many people at this point if it weren't for him ripping everything to shreds. If anyone has been a "regressive activist" it's definitely him.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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I have to say this about O'Donnell... no sympathy for him either. He's seen firsthand everything Lloyd has done over the years... the bullying, the tantrums, the CoC debacle, the whole "aggressive regressive activist" name calling... Whatever you want to add to the list of what a POS Lloyd has been over the years, O'Donnell saw it all and kept working with him.
IMHO O'Donnell ignored it because it worked for him. Lloyd could scare off everyone and Mark could lap up the leftovers, riding the neck beard's coattails so he could hobnob with people at the London conference, be on Lloyd's videos, whatever. Act like he was a bigshot. Other people have called Lloyd's shit out over the years and paid a price for it but O'Donnell has been too much of a pussy or just too selfish to take a stand, so I have no sympathy. Support from people like him are part of what enables Lloyd to keep up his BS.
Plus I remember Mark gave the Australian activists some shit over some public documents they had shared and O'Donnell did all this chest thumping about how he always redacts certain information, he's so sympathetic to the victims, etc. Just like Lloyd, he's always come across like he's the only "real" activist and adult in the room and everyone else is just a stupid, bumbling child.
Yeah he's done some good work but that's what people say about Lloyd when overlooking his shit. O'Donnell didn't necessarily need to say anything publicly but to keep working with that fat ass after all his bad behavior makes him an accessory in my eyes. Just my opinion of course.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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@Vintage ... try a computer? My phone does the same but my laptop shows the screencap I posted above. Here's a bigger grab so you can see it's legit. P.S. If I somehow made this as a joke, I'd just say so.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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No joke, go to the link and try it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/jwwatch
That is the link for his old reddit sub, right? Hopefully I'm not confused about which was the one he started... I don't think there was another JWwatch so pretty sure that's it.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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DerekMoors
The exJW reddit seems like a mixed bag when the story first broke but I can only find one semi-recent post of someone looking for a video of his. Otherwise, it looks like a whole lotta other people having their exJW say without having to bring him into it (thank god). How the JWs are screaming for people to stop using zoom and show up in person, etc. Lots of people waking up. Stuff no one needs Lloyd to comment on.
I tried the JWwatch reddit and this is what came up:
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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Half of 887 is 443.5 and he just dropped to 439. Yeah I'm sure it will go up by a few over the next few weeks but as of today, he has officially lost more followers than he kept so he can take that argument someplace else.
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What was the peak number again? Something like 879? I'm only keeping track because of when he said "more people have stuck with me than have stopped being patrons" or some dumb shit like that. Hard to keep track of it all at this point.
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@Vintage I understand that but wish she'd have the strength to break the cycle for the sake of the next generation if not for herself. So sad.
And Patreon is at 445 now. I'm sure it'll bounce around in the next few days but again, at least it's going in the right direction.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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I have to say this about Dijana... If she's still with him, I have no sympathy for her. None. Because whatever she's thinking about, it's not her two girls.
Sure Lloyd seems nice to them now but what happens when they get older and start to think for themselves or rebel like normal teenagers? Or start to realize his faults and call him out?
He'll gaslight them over their perceived "flaws" while taking no responsibility for his behavior, insult them like he does their mother, berate them constantly just to win the argument, etc.
God knows what relationship he'll have with them once he can't parade them around on social media for "cuteness factor" votes. Heaven forbid they pull away from that crap on their own, the tantrums and insults they'll be subjected to by that overgrown man baby.
Plus he's teaching them what relationships are all about. The wife should cook and clean and take care of the kids and admire the man at home, but the man should also be able to have sex with whomever else he wants, travel to foreign countries for vacations without her whenever he wants, and talk about her and their private life publicly when he wants. Whatever he wants, he's entitled to it and if you do question him, everything is your fault because of your "flaws" and nothing is his responsibility and wah wah wah you have to stop questioning me because I have mental health issues.
What a great example she allows to be set in that home for those girls, if she is still with him. Nothing but toxic selfishness, emotional blackmail, gaslighting, and [fill in the blank]. If she can't leave for herself she needs to think about those girls and their future.
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It’s that time of the month again. Happy patron drop day! I wonder how far it will drop this time …
447 currently. Still too many but I remember once thinking it would hover around 700. At least it's going in the right direction.