Posts by DerekMoors

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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DerekMoors

if you would the what about the 10s of thousands of people it has saved from jw?

If a doctor murders someone, do we overlook that because of the people he/she saved? Their work doesn't earn them the right to hurt others. That victim's life is just as important and valuable as his/her patient's, and there are plenty of other doctors who can heal and who don't murder.

Lloyd can snivel about "dating" a sex worker all he wants, we know that's bullshit, especially in Thailand. Human trafficking exists because of men like him. Women and children are bought and sold and forced into degrading prostitution their entire lives because he pays for the services they're forced to provide.

Whatever good he's supposedly done doesn't cancel out that abuse. The lives of those women he's hurt by supporting that disgusting industry are just as important as any JW.

And you can say that no one else speaks to exiting JWs like him but that's just your opinion. There are plenty of other JW commentators who do good work and don't prop up the human trafficking industry on the side, and chances are there would be even more if Lloyd and his POS flying monkeys O'Redwood and Daniel Walker and the rest hadn't bullied so many into silence.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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DerekMoors

399 Woo Hoo!

Imagine the drop next week after the 1st. He's already back to where he was before his begging campaign.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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DerekMoors

The Fannypack Man spent YEARS sitting front row for Lloy'd antics. He had to have been fully aware of how Lloyd treated people, the Crisis Of Conscience copyright fiasco, and other instances best summed up as Lloyd being a flat out dick.
Lloyd even fooled the Cult Expert Steven Hassan.

These people looked the other way because it worked for them. O'Redwood got what he felt was some prestige in the xJW community by riding Lloyd's coattails and using the Fatman's platform to wave a flag about his own activism work. Had he said or done anything to rock the boat, how would he have gotten any adulation on his own? He doesn't strike me as smart enough to run a YouTube channel or otherwise engage people. And we all know he's in it for the ego as well, didn't he take over that Tricia's protest or something? Ordering people around like he was the elder.

As for Hassan, I'm gonna guess the same thing applies. If he can use Lloyd and anyone else to sell books, expand his platform and audience, then he'll ignore Lloyd being a dick. If memory serves me, he jumped on Fatass's bandwagon about the Russian ban but then had to take a few steps back when he got slammed on social media about it. He conveniently forgot that those people he was alienating by being too arbitrary were his potential customers.

They're all hypocrites, all of them. They all love the so-called prestige of being the big shot experts and have never given two shits about who they surround themselves with if it means views, book sales, adulation, whatever.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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DerekMoors

I don't have the time or desire to keep an everyday tally but wasn't he at 417 or something earlier this month? And I think it was 406 just a few days ago. Whatever's going on, it's good to see fewer people giving him money he can spend propping up the human trafficking industry.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

DerekMoors

@Toblerone

Thank you. We moved recently so I've been distracted but then come back just to see him bossing around other people with this nonsense? Stupid chunk of lard in cheap sweaters. That dumb hair job, he looks like a knockoff Spiderman villain.

On the upside, he'd down to 403 patrons... I think he was at 399 before he started the "woe is me, honor me with your valuable things" campaign so he's almost back to that level.

Honestly, 100 million swimmers and he's the one who made it to the egg. I shudder to think what the other 99,999,999 slower and dumber ones would have spawned.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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DerekMoors

Someone go tell that fat slab of bacon grease that it's not up to him to tell anyone else how to run their business, charity, podcast, organization, or life. "It would be best..." Fuck you, you fat slithering troll. You don't get to decide that or tell anyone else that. No one answers to you, no one needs to explain anything to you, no one even needs to acknowledge your latest tantrum and especially if you can't be bothered to read their flyer properly. What happened, your dollar store hair dye sting your eyes so you couldn't focus?

Also, someone explain to F2F (but in a much nicer way) that they should be telling him that same thing, firmly and directly. They don't answer to him, don't need to justify their stance to him, don't owe him an explanation, and shouldn't give a fuck if he "accepts" anything from them. Let him scream into the void, engaging him only feeds the monster. Seriously, stop coddling this fat trash man baby with a response; he wants an argument, he lives for the adrenaline rush.

And if someone must respond to his Royal Fatness, point out that he's in no position to talk about anyone's human rights with this bullshit "lab specimen" argument. You think women forced into sex work whom you victimize every day don't feel like specimens and that their entire life must have "less value"? Fucking fat hypocrite.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

DerekMoors

Soon, Lloyd. Soon.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

DerekMoors

He hasn't even updated the patron goals. These are his tiers right now:

So basically his entire Patreon pitch is "give me money to come hang out in a zoom call with me, but only if I don't cancel at the last minute. And see your name at the end of a video."

That's it, that's all people are paying for.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

DerekMoors

This morning he was at 404 patrons.

Then he posted this:

Now he's at 402 patrons. Literally, his changes just cost him 2 patrons.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

DerekMoors

Interesting... I think with Patreon, you can make posts only meant for people donating at a certain level (or higher). So with this post, only those donating at the $25/month level or higher can like/comment.

But, as the wife just pointed out, it has no likes/comments.

He posted at this level in November, again no likes or comments.

This level post in October, just one comment/like.

September, no likes/comments.

August, 2 likes.

So mehtinks that maybe he doesn't have any patrons (or maybe just the 1 or 2) at the $25 or $49.99 levels.

If he doesn't any patrons at that level, it would explain why he "canceled" the call, but of course he had to make a post about it to make people think he's at least trying to do the bare minimum.

I bet his 401 whopping patrons are more at the $1 and $5 level, which helps explain his panic at the freefall. Even in Croatia, $2000/month plus whatever few dollars he gets from YouTube isn't going to cut it when you've got an apartment, a full separate studio, karaoke bills, an illiterate lawyer that will bleed you dry for years, "dates" to pay for, and an expensive porn habit to maintain. I'd add spousal and child support to that list but that's probably last on his list of priorities, if he pays anything at all.