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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
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DerekMoors

I can't with his fucking hypocrisy. How about "Most men who want to abuse women but also tell themselves that they're not really abusing them will pay someone else to force those women into sex work."
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
DerekMoors

This is just my opinion but I think it's worse for Leah and Rinder to say nothing. If they publicly repudiated his conduct, that would make it harder for Scientology to pounce on them. By saying nothing, it's like they're turning a blind eye to something he was engaged in at the same time as when they had him on their studio's couch.
Plus it just makes them hypocrites, Leah's twitter bio literally says she's "intolerant of bullies, bullshit, and injustice." Well I call bullshit on that statement. They were warned that Lloyd was a complete bully but ignored those warnings. They literally had the biggest ex JW bully on their couch, showing off his book to their audience.
And where's the justice for victims of human trafficking, which only exists because people like Lloyd pay money for it to exist?
At least Andrew Gold had the balls to put out a video calling Lloyd out after having him on his show. Others have also kept up the pressure despite his few straggling minions still giving them shit.
Like I said, Leah and Rinder giving him a platform is part of what enables his bad behavior. Same with Hassan, Trey Bundy, and all the rest. They'll rub elbows with him if they think it gets them publicity, dismissing other people with concerns like they're stupid children, but then feigning ignorance when it turns out that yes, Lloyd is as much of a POS as everyone said.
Okay, rant over.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
DerekMoors

Leah's show ended in 2019:
https://www.thewrap.com/leah-remini-scientology-and-the-aftermath-end-2-hour-series-finale-special-3-seasons-a-e/
However the decision was made, I'm sure we'll never know all the behind-the-scenes details. But according to its Wiki article, viewership was declining over its 3 seasons and they apparently didn't even crack a million viewers for the JW episode:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leah_Remini:_Scientology_and_the_Aftermath
For what it's worth, I know it's not Leah's or Rinder's responsibility to always comment on everyone that's been even remotely associated with their work but I also think their silence is deafening. They're all ears when someone like Lloyd and people on twitter contact them to work together and potentially expand their audience but suddenly have nothing to say about his repeatedly cheating on his wife with prostitutes and seeing sex workers in Thailand, a place notorious for human trafficking.
Giving him a platform after they were warned he had a history of bad behavior just enabled it all the more, IMHO. Just like his few leftover followers, it's so hypocritical to call out JW or Scientology bad behavior but then ignore Lloyd's.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
DerekMoors

There were a lot of people tagging Leah and Rinder in tweets when this all went down but I don't remember seeing them addressing it. He also retweets them so they obviously haven't blocked him.
I can't agree that they wouldn't be aware, Remini said that the whole reason she brought JWs on for their own episode of Aftermath is because so many were tweeting her and begging for it, saying the religions are so similar. (Obviously she's tuned in to social media) She also did a phone interview with Lloyd after her show was cancelled so they were all in touch somehow after that one episode.
I'm thinking they probably don't care enough to respond. I heard there were a lot of people trying to warn them before the show itself about his bad behavior but... crickets, obviously.
I also can't remember Steve Hassan or Richard Kelly saying anything...?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
DerekMoors

If you're going to produce videos, you should angle the camera so that you don't have a huge dent in the frame every time. Or take some of that fancy equipment budget and patch it up. But either way, it's hugely distracting, like having a sink full of dirty dishes behind you.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
DerekMoors

Big dent on the wall and no wedding ring. Also, still ugly.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
DerekMoors

I bring up his subs vs. views because we all know he's all about numbers, as if those prove anything (like with his patrons, how many have left vs. stayed). So the next time he crows about still having 104,000+ subscribers it can be pointed out that his views are nowhere near that number, more like 5500 to 6000 or so on average.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
DerekMoors
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
DerekMoors

It's embarrassing to read Lloyd's IMDB page, with him touting his long-winded YouTube videos as if they're real documentaries and he's a legitimate filmmaker. It's so obvious that he wants to be a big shot, Michael Moore meets Steve Hassan meets Richard Dawkins meets Socrates, etc.
Now look at him, scrounging around with a pathetic few hundred patrons, a few thousand views on his current videos, and a few dozen engagements on twitter. Can't get a foot in the door with environmentalists, Mormons, atheists, or anyone else.
And it's all still going downhill, not gaining traction. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
DerekMoors

I just skimmed his YouTube and it seems his video views hover around the 6,000 mark, more or less. Some about 4000-5000 but just a handful reach anywhere close to 9000 or more.
Does that seem off to anyone, given his 104,000 subscribers? Not even 6% of his subscribers actually watch his stuff, if my math isn't mistaken?