Posts by DerekMoors

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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DerekMoors

The Fannypack Man spent YEARS sitting front row for Lloy'd antics. He had to have been fully aware of how Lloyd treated people, the Crisis Of Conscience copyright fiasco, and other instances best summed up as Lloyd being a flat out dick.
Lloyd even fooled the Cult Expert Steven Hassan.

These people looked the other way because it worked for them. O'Redwood got what he felt was some prestige in the xJW community by riding Lloyd's coattails and using the Fatman's platform to wave a flag about his own activism work. Had he said or done anything to rock the boat, how would he have gotten any adulation on his own? He doesn't strike me as smart enough to run a YouTube channel or otherwise engage people. And we all know he's in it for the ego as well, didn't he take over that Tricia's protest or something? Ordering people around like he was the elder.

As for Hassan, I'm gonna guess the same thing applies. If he can use Lloyd and anyone else to sell books, expand his platform and audience, then he'll ignore Lloyd being a dick. If memory serves me, he jumped on Fatass's bandwagon about the Russian ban but then had to take a few steps back when he got slammed on social media about it. He conveniently forgot that those people he was alienating by being too arbitrary were his potential customers.

They're all hypocrites, all of them. They all love the so-called prestige of being the big shot experts and have never given two shits about who they surround themselves with if it means views, book sales, adulation, whatever.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

DerekMoors

I don't have the time or desire to keep an everyday tally but wasn't he at 417 or something earlier this month? And I think it was 406 just a few days ago. Whatever's going on, it's good to see fewer people giving him money he can spend propping up the human trafficking industry.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

DerekMoors

@Toblerone

Thank you. We moved recently so I've been distracted but then come back just to see him bossing around other people with this nonsense? Stupid chunk of lard in cheap sweaters. That dumb hair job, he looks like a knockoff Spiderman villain.

On the upside, he'd down to 403 patrons... I think he was at 399 before he started the "woe is me, honor me with your valuable things" campaign so he's almost back to that level.

Honestly, 100 million swimmers and he's the one who made it to the egg. I shudder to think what the other 99,999,999 slower and dumber ones would have spawned.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

DerekMoors

Someone go tell that fat slab of bacon grease that it's not up to him to tell anyone else how to run their business, charity, podcast, organization, or life. "It would be best..." Fuck you, you fat slithering troll. You don't get to decide that or tell anyone else that. No one answers to you, no one needs to explain anything to you, no one even needs to acknowledge your latest tantrum and especially if you can't be bothered to read their flyer properly. What happened, your dollar store hair dye sting your eyes so you couldn't focus?

Also, someone explain to F2F (but in a much nicer way) that they should be telling him that same thing, firmly and directly. They don't answer to him, don't need to justify their stance to him, don't owe him an explanation, and shouldn't give a fuck if he "accepts" anything from them. Let him scream into the void, engaging him only feeds the monster. Seriously, stop coddling this fat trash man baby with a response; he wants an argument, he lives for the adrenaline rush.

And if someone must respond to his Royal Fatness, point out that he's in no position to talk about anyone's human rights with this bullshit "lab specimen" argument. You think women forced into sex work whom you victimize every day don't feel like specimens and that their entire life must have "less value"? Fucking fat hypocrite.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

DerekMoors

Soon, Lloyd. Soon.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

DerekMoors

He hasn't even updated the patron goals. These are his tiers right now:

So basically his entire Patreon pitch is "give me money to come hang out in a zoom call with me, but only if I don't cancel at the last minute. And see your name at the end of a video."

That's it, that's all people are paying for.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

DerekMoors

This morning he was at 404 patrons.

Then he posted this:

Now he's at 402 patrons. Literally, his changes just cost him 2 patrons.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

DerekMoors

Interesting... I think with Patreon, you can make posts only meant for people donating at a certain level (or higher). So with this post, only those donating at the $25/month level or higher can like/comment.

But, as the wife just pointed out, it has no likes/comments.

He posted at this level in November, again no likes or comments.

This level post in October, just one comment/like.

September, no likes/comments.

August, 2 likes.

So mehtinks that maybe he doesn't have any patrons (or maybe just the 1 or 2) at the $25 or $49.99 levels.

If he doesn't any patrons at that level, it would explain why he "canceled" the call, but of course he had to make a post about it to make people think he's at least trying to do the bare minimum.

I bet his 401 whopping patrons are more at the $1 and $5 level, which helps explain his panic at the freefall. Even in Croatia, $2000/month plus whatever few dollars he gets from YouTube isn't going to cut it when you've got an apartment, a full separate studio, karaoke bills, an illiterate lawyer that will bleed you dry for years, "dates" to pay for, and an expensive porn habit to maintain. I'd add spousal and child support to that list but that's probably last on his list of priorities, if he pays anything at all.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

DerekMoors

So he was fine enough to do a video begging for funds but then suddenly has strep throat and can't do a zoom call for his $25/month patrons. If you're still giving money to this lying con artist you're just in full-blown stupid mode by now.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

DerekMoors

I know, I know, it's considered the lowest hanging fruit to ever hurl the "you're still in the mindset of a JW" at anyone. Our version of Godwin's law by whose standards the thread has come to an end and we've lost the "argument". But in this case the comparison is just so obvious it smacks you right in the face.

I think we can make an exception to Godwin's law here because he learned this behavior, or it was reinforced, somewhere. Home, with his mommy and daddy? Probably. But at the KH? Definitely.

Besides, look how much it mirrors JW elder/pioneer behavior. WT literature has come right out and blamed wives for their husband's adultery by claiming they might be "withholding" the "marital due." So, if you feel sorry enough for yourself about what's going on at home, you're entitled to go boink another woman and it's the wife's fault for failing you.

Pioneers always had their hands out for money. I remember one guy, lived at home literally in the parent's basement while pioneering, was on his way to being made elder from his teen years, and barely worked. We'd go out for fast food after a Sunday meeting, he'd order and then when the cashier told him the amount, he'd step back and say "Oh I don't have that" with an expectant look on his face. Sure enough, some pleeb would step in and pay for him. More than one pioneer expected other congregation members to fix their cars for free or pay for their repair, they never drove in service because they couldn't afford the gas, and one couple I know eventually got into trouble for keeping any donations that householders gave them at the door.

It didn't stop with finances... one couple I know, the husband worked evenings so he was home during the day but asleep. She pioneered but homeschooled, which meant she left her preteen daughter at home to do her schoolwork herself. Literally, the kid wasn't technically alone in the house but alone with her schooling from age 5 or 6 onward. Mom would be dead before she gave up her special pioneering status and she certainly wasn't going to let a child at home get in the way of it.

And elders expected to have their time on the platform with the enraptured crowd hanging on to their every word. Every decision should be run by them because they're somehow smarter or wiser than the average R&F. You felt so privileged to have an elder over for dinner and god help you when the CO showed up. They stayed at your house, you cooked and cleaned for them, and then slid them some money for the privilege of doing it.

Every one of these applies to him. The arrogant ass hat elder who knows better and whom you don't dare criticize, the pioneer and traveling CO who's entitled to your financial support, and the sick pervert who gets to step out on his wife because she's somehow failing him. He's the JW hat trick.