I feel like calling it at 367, that would make Las Malvinas and Elena tied for the win. What say everyone else?
DerekMoors
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Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool February 2024
by DerekMoors inhappy new year!
time to give us your vote for lloyd's fall from grace this month.. december 6th he was at 406. as of today, january 3rd, he's at 388. that is exactly, on the dot, where he was january 3rd of last year!
he's lost all gains from his begging videos and reminders and tin cup waving and etc.. so, fire up the shrooms and let us know where you think flab boy will be on february 2nd.
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Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool February 2024
by DerekMoors inhappy new year!
time to give us your vote for lloyd's fall from grace this month.. december 6th he was at 406. as of today, january 3rd, he's at 388. that is exactly, on the dot, where he was january 3rd of last year!
he's lost all gains from his begging videos and reminders and tin cup waving and etc.. so, fire up the shrooms and let us know where you think flab boy will be on february 2nd.
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DerekMoors
He can scrub comments and try to control the narrative all he wants, numbers don't lie. If he holds steady at 362 today, that's -26 in one month and -44 over the past two months.
Go back even more, he peaked at 897 in November 2022. That's a 60% loss in 14 months. Nothing has kept his audience; not his "things are bad" or Aftermath video, his little banners begging for funds, his random appearances on patreon, nothing. His latest rebuttal video of the annual meeting has gotten a whopping 13K views in 2 days.
I also wonder how many positive comments on his stuff are fake accounts he's created. Whatever the case, someone needs to stick a fork in him... he's done.
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Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool February 2024
by DerekMoors inhappy new year!
time to give us your vote for lloyd's fall from grace this month.. december 6th he was at 406. as of today, january 3rd, he's at 388. that is exactly, on the dot, where he was january 3rd of last year!
he's lost all gains from his begging videos and reminders and tin cup waving and etc.. so, fire up the shrooms and let us know where you think flab boy will be on february 2nd.
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DerekMoors
I think maybe his grift to new ones coming out has turned out to be a double-edged sword for him. In the past, newly ex JWs latched onto him because he was making a lot of noise against the WT. They were happy to throw their money at him because he seemed to be the busiest, loudest person in the community.
Now, newly out ones won't be as enamored with him. He's not writing a book, working on documentaries, or giving the community the latest scoop on legal cases and everything else WT related. He's barely on social media. If I was newly out, I might look at this guy and think "oh, he does the occasional rebuttal video and phone call... so what? Why would I pay money to have a monthly zoom call and just sit around and shoot the shit with him?" Compare that to JW Thoughts and the rest reporting on Norway, Spain, etc. and he looks like a minor background player, especially to new ones.
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Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool February 2024
by DerekMoors inhappy new year!
time to give us your vote for lloyd's fall from grace this month.. december 6th he was at 406. as of today, january 3rd, he's at 388. that is exactly, on the dot, where he was january 3rd of last year!
he's lost all gains from his begging videos and reminders and tin cup waving and etc.. so, fire up the shrooms and let us know where you think flab boy will be on february 2nd.
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DerekMoors
388 at the beginning of January, 361 right now. That's minus 27 in a month. I'm sure he'll get back a few but it appears people are getting wise to the grift, thank god.
BTW Lloyd, you brought this all on yourself. All of it. This is your responsibility 100%. Stop blaming Kim and the M7 and Watchtower and whomever else you cross paths with today. The fault lies with the guy in the bathroom mirror and no one else.
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Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool February 2024
by DerekMoors inhappy new year!
time to give us your vote for lloyd's fall from grace this month.. december 6th he was at 406. as of today, january 3rd, he's at 388. that is exactly, on the dot, where he was january 3rd of last year!
he's lost all gains from his begging videos and reminders and tin cup waving and etc.. so, fire up the shrooms and let us know where you think flab boy will be on february 2nd.
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DerekMoors
@Las Mal
Not so fast.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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DerekMoors
That's like 12 or 13 lost overnight but he started January at 388 so -21 so far in a month.
It's so obvious he doesn't care any more. He wants to spend all his time at the bar playing guitar and making stupid jokes about sperm and dildos in the queen's casket. Which would be perfectly fine if he had an ounce of talent but here we are.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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DerekMoors
133 views in 2 hours. Nobody cares what you have to say Lloyd.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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DerekMoors
IMHO it might be the old "no atheist in foxholes" mentality. He's gotta know his life is crumbling with no light at the end of the tunnel... a normal, hard-working, mature man can learn a new trade, open a new business, whatever. Lloyd has nothing but his supposed expertise on the inner workings of JWs. He kept his wife in check when she was fresh out of the JWs and didn't know the full extent of his abusive, gaslighting, perverse ways.
Now it's all over, his wife isn't coming back, the money and patrons aren't coming back, the media isn't calling, and he's getting older and uglier every day. His credibility as an exJW is shot but he's got nothing else to offer anyone. He's in his own version of a foxhole with no one coming to save him.
So he's probably subconsciously hoping there's something bigger than him (no pun intended) out there that he can rely on to return him to his former glory, or at least keep him from ending up homeless and destitute.
Just my two cents...
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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DerekMoors
Telltale Atheist vs. Tall Tales Asshat. All his videos are outperforming Lloyd's and Owen also has almost 4x his subscribers, which must chap his ample ass.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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DerekMoors
The problem with doing an updated TRA is that there's no new audience for it. He's already sold all the copies he's ever gonna sell and hasn't created an entirely new fan base that's going to invest in a new copy.
Normally you update or revise books like that when they're extremely outdated or when it's no longer in the limelight and you have a whole new customer base for it. Neither applies, so who's gonna shell out another $40 to hear him talk about stuff that's really old news by now? Remini's show has been off the air forever and her star is falling fast so no reason to brag about that, and he hasn't done anything significant since then except confess to dallying with prostitutes.
He's also already tried to spin that story in his favor and that hasn't worked. Any mention of it in a new book to a new audience risks having them react the same way; not buying his BS "we're all imperfect and it's all apostate lies anyway" and instead, losing them as viewers.
I doubt he'd sell any more than maybe 100 copies of TRA v2 and it would do more damage than good. Plus he doesn't look like he has the clarity or sobriety needed to do it anyway. Something is seriously wrong with his health, judging by his IG videos alone. I don't see good things for him in 2024, NGL.