Posts by DerekMoors

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

DerekMoors

The only thing I would say against that is we don't know if those 177 were new patrons, in addition to the 897 peak. Some who were part of the drop from 897 may have come back for a few months at least, trying to get him through what they thought was just a temporary slump.

But however you slice it, I like to look at things over time rather than just month to month. You see how his drop was significant right after that initial surge and then slowed down over the holiday months, but he still averaged -22 per month in those 10 months. He's also not gaining anything permanently; he was in the same exact spot, on the nose, January 2 this year and last year.

And it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy LOL!

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Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool March 2024

by DerekMoors in

for those still interested in lloyd's fall from grace, i made up a chart of my own.

april 2023 is when he put out his "things are bad" tin cup begging video, and he got a small surge to 592 on the 13th of that month.

i'm also using his all-time peak of 897 from november 2022.. for march, we're gonna say a modest -15, putting him at 352. i'm also curious as to when he might hit 300 and then 200. if he keeps up with an average of -20 every month, he'll be at less than 190 before the end of this year.. happy guessing everyone..

DerekMoors

content was sparse, repetitive and dull

That's one reason why any threat to shut down his work now is pointless. What difference would it make? Everyone else is reporting on current news, commenting on things like beardgate, etc. It seems like there's even more exJWs speaking out than ever before, even if they're not on top of news and protests etc. There's more quanity and quality elsewhere so would anyone even notice if he was gone?

Especially true for new ones out, like I said before. They weren't around when he was on Remini's show and actually churning out work (such as it was) and making noise. New he's just another background player. So yeah he might beg and get another little surge but I'd bet it won't be as much and won't take as long to correct and lose those gains. He's now in a bubble-and-burst stage except the bubble is smaller and smaller each time IMHO.

2909

It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

jw
friends

uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

DerekMoors

Here's the graph creator I use:

https://graphtreon.com/creator/cedars

He had another surge in March 2021, is that what you mean? From 656 to 750 in a few days. I haven't kept track of all his BS. I frankly can't stand the sound of his voice so checking out his videos is a chore for me.

2909

It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

jw
friends

uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

DerekMoors

Here's next month's Patreoff thread. I also put this table in that thread, interesting to see over time:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5109249936457728/lloyd-evans-patreoff-pool-march-2024

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Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool March 2024

by DerekMoors in

for those still interested in lloyd's fall from grace, i made up a chart of my own.

april 2023 is when he put out his "things are bad" tin cup begging video, and he got a small surge to 592 on the 13th of that month.

i'm also using his all-time peak of 897 from november 2022.. for march, we're gonna say a modest -15, putting him at 352. i'm also curious as to when he might hit 300 and then 200. if he keeps up with an average of -20 every month, he'll be at less than 190 before the end of this year.. happy guessing everyone..

DerekMoors

For those still interested in Lloyd's fall from grace, I made up a chart of my own.

April 2023 is when he put out his "Things Are Bad" tin cup begging video, and he got a small surge to 592 on the 13th of that month. I'm also using his all-time peak of 897 from November 2022.

For March, we're gonna say a modest -15, putting him at 352. I'm also curious as to when he might hit 300 and then 200. If he keeps up with an average of -20 every month, he'll be at less than 190 before the end of this year.

Happy guessing everyone.

2909

It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

jw
friends

uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

DerekMoors

Anyone know the cost content his Zoom?

So for $1 you can have a quarterly zoom with all the patrons and for $25 you get a private, monthly chat with his royal high-ness and other top-tier suckers.

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Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool February 2024

by DerekMoors in

happy new year!

time to give us your vote for lloyd's fall from grace this month.. december 6th he was at 406. as of today, january 3rd, he's at 388. that is exactly, on the dot, where he was january 3rd of last year!

he's lost all gains from his begging videos and reminders and tin cup waving and etc.. so, fire up the shrooms and let us know where you think flab boy will be on february 2nd.

DerekMoors

I take that back... he's down to 366 so that would be Forever Alone.

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Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool February 2024

by DerekMoors in

happy new year!

time to give us your vote for lloyd's fall from grace this month.. december 6th he was at 406. as of today, january 3rd, he's at 388. that is exactly, on the dot, where he was january 3rd of last year!

he's lost all gains from his begging videos and reminders and tin cup waving and etc.. so, fire up the shrooms and let us know where you think flab boy will be on february 2nd.

DerekMoors

I feel like calling it at 367, that would make Las Malvinas and Elena tied for the win. What say everyone else?

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Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool February 2024

by DerekMoors in

happy new year!

time to give us your vote for lloyd's fall from grace this month.. december 6th he was at 406. as of today, january 3rd, he's at 388. that is exactly, on the dot, where he was january 3rd of last year!

he's lost all gains from his begging videos and reminders and tin cup waving and etc.. so, fire up the shrooms and let us know where you think flab boy will be on february 2nd.

DerekMoors

He can scrub comments and try to control the narrative all he wants, numbers don't lie. If he holds steady at 362 today, that's -26 in one month and -44 over the past two months.

Go back even more, he peaked at 897 in November 2022. That's a 60% loss in 14 months. Nothing has kept his audience; not his "things are bad" or Aftermath video, his little banners begging for funds, his random appearances on patreon, nothing. His latest rebuttal video of the annual meeting has gotten a whopping 13K views in 2 days.

I also wonder how many positive comments on his stuff are fake accounts he's created. Whatever the case, someone needs to stick a fork in him... he's done.

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Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool February 2024

by DerekMoors in

happy new year!

time to give us your vote for lloyd's fall from grace this month.. december 6th he was at 406. as of today, january 3rd, he's at 388. that is exactly, on the dot, where he was january 3rd of last year!

he's lost all gains from his begging videos and reminders and tin cup waving and etc.. so, fire up the shrooms and let us know where you think flab boy will be on february 2nd.

DerekMoors

I think maybe his grift to new ones coming out has turned out to be a double-edged sword for him. In the past, newly ex JWs latched onto him because he was making a lot of noise against the WT. They were happy to throw their money at him because he seemed to be the busiest, loudest person in the community.

Now, newly out ones won't be as enamored with him. He's not writing a book, working on documentaries, or giving the community the latest scoop on legal cases and everything else WT related. He's barely on social media. If I was newly out, I might look at this guy and think "oh, he does the occasional rebuttal video and phone call... so what? Why would I pay money to have a monthly zoom call and just sit around and shoot the shit with him?" Compare that to JW Thoughts and the rest reporting on Norway, Spain, etc. and he looks like a minor background player, especially to new ones.