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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Don't overlook in all this talk about money that Lloyd needs adulation and admiration just as much as a paycheck. I'm sure his "activism" was like a drug for him... the rush of putting out a video and being admired by his starstruck groupies, getting the first crack at certain leaks, feeling like a big shot when he ran roughshod over other activists. All that is over. He's not getting calls and his admiration is down to an old man's trickle.

  I noticed that he tagged Leah Remini, Mike Rinder, and Tony Ortega in that dumb pic of him in California at a Scientology center but (as far as I can see) none of them responded. A desperate grasp at celebrity straws and broken shards of the glory he thinks he once had. He once said Leah was his "friend" and she doesn't even give him a like on stupid social media.

  I'm sure being a nobody with no groupies is taking its toll on him emotionally as much as his dwindling paycheck, like any junkie in withdrawal.
  
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  Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool March 2024

  by DerekMoors in

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  for those still interested in lloyd's fall from grace, i made up a chart of my own.

  april 2023 is when he put out his "things are bad" tin cup begging video, and he got a small surge to 592 on the 13th of that month.

  i'm also using his all-time peak of 897 from november 2022.. for march, we're gonna say a modest -15, putting him at 352. i'm also curious as to when he might hit 300 and then 200. if he keeps up with an average of -20 every month, he'll be at less than 190 before the end of this year.. happy guessing everyone..

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  "Love juice in my testicles" sounds like lyrics he'd use if he ever tried his hand at writing a love song.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Whoa, two special events with his "amazing" patrons. Sucking up, flattering, trying to stop the bleeding... Too little too late IMHO.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Make sure to give Kameron some love on this video. The more views and thumbs up, the more it will show up in other people's feeds and YouTube home pages:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9Rlwd3XT-Q

  Hey Lloyd... how does it feel, seeing other activists (including one of your detractors) out there getting the news stories out, doing the job you thought was only your right and privilege to do? Worthless ass hat, you weren't even a victim of CSA, you victimize others caught up in human trafficking... and you think you're in a position to speak. Go crawl in a hole.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  They've been round the mainstream for over 60 years now, and for 1000s of years in indigenous communities.

  That's one of Lloyd's problems; he thinks he's the first to put two and two together while everyone else in the world is a bumbling moron needing his wisdom and guidance. Like in his book, when he literally put in a footnote explaining "blue balls" ... as if he's the first person to experience sexual frustration, masturbation, etc., or to come across slang terms. Thank you Lloyd for explaining that to us stupid children out here!

  He honestly thought his website and survey and book would blow the lid off the WT when so much of that work had already been done and guess what, his wise words of guidance didn't stop the GB in their tracks. They weren't interested in having the great Lloyd show them the error of their ways, and then make their changes while shaking his hand and thanking him for his guidance.

  He's so in love with himself it's beyond his understanding that other people don't find him so amazingly smart and fascinating and he's such a child about the world he doesn't realize other people are already strides ahead of him. It's toddler mentality, just now discovering things and thinking he's the smartest in the room when he's actually the biggest baby.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  He's so washed-up. No one cares what he has to say any more and it shows.
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  Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool March 2024

  by DerekMoors in

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  for those still interested in lloyd's fall from grace, i made up a chart of my own.

  april 2023 is when he put out his "things are bad" tin cup begging video, and he got a small surge to 592 on the 13th of that month.

  i'm also using his all-time peak of 897 from november 2022.. for march, we're gonna say a modest -15, putting him at 352. i'm also curious as to when he might hit 300 and then 200. if he keeps up with an average of -20 every month, he'll be at less than 190 before the end of this year.. happy guessing everyone..

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  Interesting that he averaged -22 every month since April. That means one loss every business/working day a month.

  Not enough IMHO but still, that's no way to run a business, losing a patron every working day. Imagine an apartment complex with 900 units and you lose a tenant every working day without replacing them.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  The only thing I would say against that is we don't know if those 177 were new patrons, in addition to the 897 peak. Some who were part of the drop from 897 may have come back for a few months at least, trying to get him through what they thought was just a temporary slump.

  But however you slice it, I like to look at things over time rather than just month to month. You see how his drop was significant right after that initial surge and then slowed down over the holiday months, but he still averaged -22 per month in those 10 months. He's also not gaining anything permanently; he was in the same exact spot, on the nose, January 2 this year and last year.

  And it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy LOL!
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  Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool March 2024

  by DerekMoors in

  1. social
  2. humour

  for those still interested in lloyd's fall from grace, i made up a chart of my own.

  april 2023 is when he put out his "things are bad" tin cup begging video, and he got a small surge to 592 on the 13th of that month.

  i'm also using his all-time peak of 897 from november 2022.. for march, we're gonna say a modest -15, putting him at 352. i'm also curious as to when he might hit 300 and then 200. if he keeps up with an average of -20 every month, he'll be at less than 190 before the end of this year.. happy guessing everyone..

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  content was sparse, repetitive and dull

  That's one reason why any threat to shut down his work now is pointless. What difference would it make? Everyone else is reporting on current news, commenting on things like beardgate, etc. It seems like there's even more exJWs speaking out than ever before, even if they're not on top of news and protests etc. There's more quanity and quality elsewhere so would anyone even notice if he was gone?

  Especially true for new ones out, like I said before. They weren't around when he was on Remini's show and actually churning out work (such as it was) and making noise. New he's just another background player. So yeah he might beg and get another little surge but I'd bet it won't be as much and won't take as long to correct and lose those gains. He's now in a bubble-and-burst stage except the bubble is smaller and smaller each time IMHO.
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Here's the graph creator I use:

  https://graphtreon.com/creator/cedars

  He had another surge in March 2021, is that what you mean? From 656 to 750 in a few days. I haven't kept track of all his BS. I frankly can't stand the sound of his voice so checking out his videos is a chore for me.