Hasn't this already been discussed a few days ago or was that a similar case?
amicabl
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Irish Elders deleted by Watchtower for reporting child sex abuse allegation to police
by Diogenesister intwo elders have been deleted by watchtower for reporting an allegation of child sexual abuse to the police, contrary to watchtower orders (a jw paedophile with a history, apparently).
when the british branch discovered what the elders had done they arranged for 3 elders to fly over to ireland, at the congregations expense no less, to hold a special jc for the ' rogue' congregation elders.
one elder and the cobe were deleted, two were allowed to continue.
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matured mentally
by Akid48 ini dont know if any one else is feeling this but after waking up i feel like i matured mentally etc.. im only 13 maybe its just me but i wanted to know if any had this feeling just a quick post..
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amicabl
Good on you for waking up at thirteen. My three daughters woke up in their teens. The eldest informed the youngest who grasped it quickly. I was baptised at 27, left at 34, came back at 48 because of my wife. Left for good at 69 this year.
Keep reading and watching videos etc. to keep yourself out so you don' t waste your life. It goes by quickly I can assure you.
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Hitachi TV Review
by The Fall Guy ini have never reviewed a product before, but having purchased a hitachi 50 inch full hd lcd tv at the weekend, i thought i'd share my experience.
hitachi tv's are now made in turkey, and not by the hitachi company.
the uk's sole supplier is the argos company.
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amicabl
The Fall Guy......Why don't you reread Morpheus' posts again. Good advice.
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The wonder of scientific research
by amicabl inthis has possibly been brought up before however here goes.. constant reference is made by many posters to scientific research as being the only way to prove something factual that would otherwise have to be taken on faith.
there actually seems to be "faith" in scientific findings.. my experience over many years is that most scientific research is fake.
nothing oftencomes of the big announcements made to raise more money.. money, prestige, pride, human error, suppositions etc., are rife amongst the scientific community.. i realise that there have been many advances over hundreds of years but humankind is in a mess, although very different to even a century ago.. the medical profession now has vaccinations for everything, antiviral drugs etc.
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amicabl
OrphanCrow / DJS A combined reply..........My name here is a shortening of my real name with an a in front. So the mic is Michael. I am 69, my wife is still in. I left the hall six months ago never to return. A rogue elder told me that the frequent visits to my house to see me are verboten. That doesn't worry him, he's coming again tomorrow. Anyone coming gets a thorough anti witness for several hours. I really like them all because it is in my nature to do so. I have put up a photo of myself to help them if they want to df me.
my grandmother had a child in the twenties that spent most of her short life in pain because of a blocked or twisted bowel that would be a simple op now.
I understand that a female doctor on the FDA blocked the release of thalidomide that prevented massive suffering in the USA.
these two examples, to me, send somewhat mixed messages of the good and the bad of medicine. Why didn't the surgeons at least try with my aunt and why was thalidomide allowed to be sold in Europe to pregnant women when the ill effects were known. I think that this qualified for common knowledge.
I read the statistics on life expectancy and they are encouraging for someone my age. In Queensland, Australia where I live males live to 80 I think, partly because of the mild climate and the more widely distributed population. But again a poor lifestyle will leave many of them in pain or a nursing home etc., for years before their death. I can't prove any of this scientifically but it is what most think. Sometimes human observation as in a farmer and weather forecasting is better than the meteorogical bureau.
I still feel that money talks in a loud way and that it should be a major concern.
Enough.. It is 2 am and I am off to sleep.
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The wonder of scientific research
by amicabl inthis has possibly been brought up before however here goes.. constant reference is made by many posters to scientific research as being the only way to prove something factual that would otherwise have to be taken on faith.
there actually seems to be "faith" in scientific findings.. my experience over many years is that most scientific research is fake.
nothing oftencomes of the big announcements made to raise more money.. money, prestige, pride, human error, suppositions etc., are rife amongst the scientific community.. i realise that there have been many advances over hundreds of years but humankind is in a mess, although very different to even a century ago.. the medical profession now has vaccinations for everything, antiviral drugs etc.
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amicabl
It was a long time ago OrphanCrow, I only put down what I remembered. I can't recall seeing graves of women who died in childbirth or young women who died, only men and women passing away in old age. It was a wander through a cemetery not a scientific expedition. The point I was trying to make in my obviously fractured English, was that the life expectancy of 30 or 40 or whatever was caused by the large number of small children who died which reduced the statistical life expectancy or maybe I am wrong there too. No offence meant to the ladies with whom in the real world I usually get on quite well with.
I actually came on this site to learn and to be encouraged by what I read. I posted a topic of which I do know something only to be shot down, sometimes on minor points and to be misquoted several times. One poster was unnecessarily offensive. I felt that the theme of my post was the dragging out of scientific research in order to create employment for the researchers. I obviously did not make myself clear enough. However what was alarming was the attack launched against me or that is how it seemed. This is not a scientific forum and I expected a variety of opinions. The nitpicking on the way I expressed myself was uncalled for. I am not a research assistant and I will bear in mind in the future that Wikipedia standards are expected of every utterance I make.
Or maybe it was just the subject.
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The wonder of scientific research
by amicabl inthis has possibly been brought up before however here goes.. constant reference is made by many posters to scientific research as being the only way to prove something factual that would otherwise have to be taken on faith.
there actually seems to be "faith" in scientific findings.. my experience over many years is that most scientific research is fake.
nothing oftencomes of the big announcements made to raise more money.. money, prestige, pride, human error, suppositions etc., are rife amongst the scientific community.. i realise that there have been many advances over hundreds of years but humankind is in a mess, although very different to even a century ago.. the medical profession now has vaccinations for everything, antiviral drugs etc.
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amicabl
Thanks everyone for the interesting posts, I didn't realise that a simple post on corruption in scientific research using medicine as an example would create such a furor.
Next time I will pick a nice bland topic.
DJS......You seem to know a lot about me including the fact that I am an ignorant AOWM who indulges in levelling and other uneducated thingies. How did you know?
One interesting point I discovered myself many years ago in a rural 19th century cemetery was the number of babes and little ones who died of common illnesses, a few young guys who fell off their horses and the rest most of whom died in their 70s or 80s. Common knowledge I know but it is nice to see these things for yourself. It helps explain the skewed life expectancy statistics as some pointed out.
Thanks again.
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The wonder of scientific research
by amicabl inthis has possibly been brought up before however here goes.. constant reference is made by many posters to scientific research as being the only way to prove something factual that would otherwise have to be taken on faith.
there actually seems to be "faith" in scientific findings.. my experience over many years is that most scientific research is fake.
nothing oftencomes of the big announcements made to raise more money.. money, prestige, pride, human error, suppositions etc., are rife amongst the scientific community.. i realise that there have been many advances over hundreds of years but humankind is in a mess, although very different to even a century ago.. the medical profession now has vaccinations for everything, antiviral drugs etc.
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amicabl
I don't really want to continue this as it seems too divisive a subject but I had to condense my thoughts when I was writing and my comments seemed simple or even flippant.
I do appreciate a lot of what medical research has done and I am now alive because of an amazing operation that has enabled me to get back outside labouring on my property, even if it is for only 3 to five hours a day, but then I am 69. I don't take statins or aspirin because of the side effects.
120 years ago heart problems were practically Unknown. The general consensus is the food we eat is one of the main causes of the problem. The massive increase in morbid obesity is directly linked to poor diet, again a product of the chemical companies.
Just about any product we now use comes from scientific research and eventually it seems in my lifetime that massive health problems arrise from many items that are still in use for example Teflon in cookware which I can remember on TV as far back as the fifties.
I can remember my father retiring at 57 with angina and drastically changing his diet with the help of a naturopath, regaining his health and living pain free to 75.
we all have to make our own path in life and I don't want to engage in back and forth argument. Anyone who read that comment from David Jay's friend on other threads would I think appreciate what was said. We are all suffering I think some sort of PTSD from cult involvement and I wish everyone well here. I appreciate all the comments made following my original post and I hope I haven' offended anyone.
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When You Were A JW Did You Ever Stand For The National Anthem?
by minimus inas a witness i always found a way to not have to embarrass myself by sitting down for the national anthem.. i’m curious.
how many of you stood up for the patriotic song?.
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amicabl
Stand but not sing. In Australia nobody seems to know the words, all you hear is a mumble.
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Checklist for Audit of File
by wifibandit inuk: 2017 checklist for audit of file.
context on how this is used:.
2015. december 9, 2008 to all bodies of elders re: data protection procedures.
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amicabl
stuckinarut2.....I remember there being a post that would answer your question but I don't know where. Even if they complied you would probably need legal help to get them and for sure they would keep a copy. Speaking for myself I wouldn't bother.
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Checklist for Audit of File
by wifibandit inuk: 2017 checklist for audit of file.
context on how this is used:.
2015. december 9, 2008 to all bodies of elders re: data protection procedures.
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amicabl
As an additional thought to this it is good for everyone to keep all paperwork and a diary of events relating to leaving our former religion of choice including notes on individuals that may be a nuisance in the future including relatives etc. many will naturally do this and I must admit I have not done this thoroughly enough. Never underestimate a potential enemy and I am not being paranoid.