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  Another trinity thing

  by Mozzie in

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  i have gone through the ones on here, i have read so much about it and everyone seems to have a different idea as to what the creed actually came up with in the sense of explaining it, religious leaders from most denominations seem to try to explain it and are all different, it does your head in just trying to read half their stuff.

  when i was going door to door, i knew how to argue against it, but now trying to learn about it.. i was reading an article of the net about this and how christ emptied himself of all deity and that, but with all the statements made and arguments to and for it, one question was brought up.

  when jesus was asked by his disciples about the time of the end, jesus replied neither i nor the angels know the hour, only the father.

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  I have actually gone through the book of Enoch, but it was some time ago so ill have to look at it again, With the creed i have browsed through it but i got lost in it, i dont get visited by them anymore as they think i am still an interested member of the their KH tho i am inactive, i am fading again. but this time it is for good, so i don't have to worry about the debating thing, but thanks for the link ill look at it again
  
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  Hello Everyone

  by Mozzie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hoping this is the right section..... my story so far,,,.

  hello everyone, i have been reading a lot on what most jws would say apostate websites, but i have been asking myself, how much of this s true and considering a lot of these are run by ex jw elders, bethalites and one who was with the gb at one stage, overseers and the like.

  i was an unbaptized publisher many years ago but never got to the point of baptism as i fell into sin, that pretty much ended my attending meetings again.

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  Yeah i have often and still do think about these things, i am convinced they do not have the truth, i have been looking deep into their history,, looking up their translations, Hebrew and Greek and how they change everything, so as for as i am concerned, i am free from them now, i can spend my time looking at other thing rather than worry about the crap they told me.
  
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  Another trinity thing

  by Mozzie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have gone through the ones on here, i have read so much about it and everyone seems to have a different idea as to what the creed actually came up with in the sense of explaining it, religious leaders from most denominations seem to try to explain it and are all different, it does your head in just trying to read half their stuff.

  when i was going door to door, i knew how to argue against it, but now trying to learn about it.. i was reading an article of the net about this and how christ emptied himself of all deity and that, but with all the statements made and arguments to and for it, one question was brought up.

  when jesus was asked by his disciples about the time of the end, jesus replied neither i nor the angels know the hour, only the father.

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  Yeah that makes sense, it is just in the truin sense, it don't lol

  I think this is one of the tings that is still bugging me, like if i wanted to find a church to visit, they all, well around here most are Baptists so they teach it.
  
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  'Strange' Australian Melbourne Baptisms

  by darkspilver in

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  2. friends

  not seen this before, or at least haven't registered it before.

  maybe it's just a traditional style?.

  i mean it's basically a glorified cattle trough?

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  If it is out in the our country outback this is what they would do, go to a river and your likely to get baptized and eaten by a 14 foot Crock at the same tiime lol
  
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  Judgment Message Training Video Has Been Leaked!

  by OneGenTwoGroups in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6dur7ol_8w.

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  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA loved it
  
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  Another trinity thing

  by Mozzie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have gone through the ones on here, i have read so much about it and everyone seems to have a different idea as to what the creed actually came up with in the sense of explaining it, religious leaders from most denominations seem to try to explain it and are all different, it does your head in just trying to read half their stuff.

  when i was going door to door, i knew how to argue against it, but now trying to learn about it.. i was reading an article of the net about this and how christ emptied himself of all deity and that, but with all the statements made and arguments to and for it, one question was brought up.

  when jesus was asked by his disciples about the time of the end, jesus replied neither i nor the angels know the hour, only the father.

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  Mozzie

  I have gone through the ones on here, i have read so much about it and everyone seems to have a different idea as to what the creed actually came up with in the sense of explaining it, religious leaders from most denominations seem to try to explain it and are all different, it does your head in just trying to read half their stuff. When i was going door to door, i knew how to argue against it, but now trying to learn about it.

  I was reading an article of the net about this and how Christ emptied himself of all deity and that, but with all the statements made and arguments to and for it, one question was brought up. When Jesus was asked by his disciples about the time of the end, Jesus replied neither i nor the angels know the hour, only the father. Now my thought was, if the father and the son and the spirit are all in one essence but 3 distinct people, but in one thought,after the baptism Jesus had all his deity back apparently, so if this were true, why didn't he know the hour of the end of days?

  This is what we call in Oz, A head F.......
  
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  Reason's why it is so difficult to leave

  by Truthexplorer in

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  2. experiences

  1. concerns about the effects it would have on yours and your family's social life.. 2. fear of being shunned.

  3. the stress it will cause.

  4. the thought of feeling isolated.

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  6. You need your faith (Christian) - but where do you go?

  This is the point i am at right now.
  
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  Anyone else feel guilty about bringing others into the "truth", once you have learned TTATT ?

  by Dunedain in

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  i guess this is not so much about guilt, per se, but more so if you feel an obligation to reveal what you now know about ttatt, to those who you have studied with, taught the "truth" to, and are still in the borg ?.

  i am sure most of us, after learning about the evils, and lies perpetrated by this organization, must feel some sort of guilt for being the catalyst in "exposing" others to the cult.

  honestly, i feel none of us should actually, feel guilty though.

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  Mozzie

  I had 3 people come into the truth, thankfully they fell away.,
  
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  In love with a JW girl

  by rastapau in

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  2. relationships

  need advise.

  i was in a relation with a jw girl for almost three years(im am not jw) and we are so inlove with each other until someone saw us from her congregation and she was disfellowed and that where the oddness happened.

  her family and friends are not talking to her anymore, she wants me to stop seeing and talking to her anymore not until i became a baptized jw.

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  I agree, it isn't worth the stress, it gets worse, let her go.
  
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  Shunning the Shunning

  by Tallon in

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  found this very interesting article on another site.

  looks like there people, and at an assembly too, who are not afraid to show their displeasure to the inhumane policies of the org.. http://avoidjw.org/2016/08/shunning-the-shunning/.

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  Mozzie

  Brilliant for both of them, love is better than any cult, they should both feel proud