I am reminded of the Monty python skit where they are stoning the old guy in life of Brian, and the crowd are asked if there are any woman in the crowd lol.
Mozzie
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Jw's and beards
by wannaexit inwithout going into details.
it appears that new light might be coming down the pipes that beards are acceptable.
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Mozzie
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Another trinity thing
by Mozzie ini have gone through the ones on here, i have read so much about it and everyone seems to have a different idea as to what the creed actually came up with in the sense of explaining it, religious leaders from most denominations seem to try to explain it and are all different, it does your head in just trying to read half their stuff.
when i was going door to door, i knew how to argue against it, but now trying to learn about it.. i was reading an article of the net about this and how christ emptied himself of all deity and that, but with all the statements made and arguments to and for it, one question was brought up.
when jesus was asked by his disciples about the time of the end, jesus replied neither i nor the angels know the hour, only the father.
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Mozzie
The post from the Searcher are the scriptures i was taught about to debunk the trinity, i was reading about the coming together of those to discuss who Jesus was in relation to worship, it is a man made creed, it is so frustrating as there are scriptures that talk about the deity of Christ. I know it also says that the father has given the son all authority in the Heavens and Earth and that the angels are to worship him and every knee will bend. So i guess it is a given that we will never know, it is interesting tho cause some will say that it is important to know the trinity so as to have your worship in union with the true God and only then can you be saved by knowing the truin God. Just another doctrine i was taught by the JWa that i am trying to make sense of it all
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Reason's why it is so difficult to leave
by Truthexplorer in1. concerns about the effects it would have on yours and your family's social life.. 2. fear of being shunned.
3. the stress it will cause.
4. the thought of feeling isolated.
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Mozzie
The deity is the biggest thing i think. We were hammered with the Jehovah one God and no other, but cannot see the scriptural references to the deity of Jesus
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How delusional is Tony Morris actually?
by Festus inanthony morris iii was representing gb in international convention in helsinki, finland.
in his final talk he mentioned that at the fight of armageddon jesus will fight together with the 144 000. he then reminds the audience that one angel destroyed 185000 assyrians.
so what are "144 000 immortal creatures together with jesus going to do".
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Mozzie
Let Tony lead the way, just tell him all the bad ones are wearing tight jeans lol
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Jw's and beards
by wannaexit inwithout going into details.
it appears that new light might be coming down the pipes that beards are acceptable.
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"You will never grow old in this present system of things" -- some campaign tools
by FatFreek 2005 ini am approaching 76 years old.
i can clearly recall that awake!
statement and similar during the pre-1975 hype -- "staying alive in '75", et al.
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Mozzie
I watched a documentary on the 1875 ballz up, Man what a nasty thing to happen to everyone that gave up everything, but it was the truth apparently, i look at these young ones today in the witnesses and think, what hope do they have also.
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Elders and Attendants sing, clap and turn backs on Street Preacher after Duluth RC.
by ToesUp invery strange behavior by the attendants and elders after the duluth, ga, rc.
on the first link the attendants start to exit the arena, then line up and turn their backs on the street preachers.
(around the 6:00 mark).. elders and attendants after duluth rc.
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Mozzie
Would love to see what Tony has t say about it lol
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Another trinity thing
by Mozzie ini have gone through the ones on here, i have read so much about it and everyone seems to have a different idea as to what the creed actually came up with in the sense of explaining it, religious leaders from most denominations seem to try to explain it and are all different, it does your head in just trying to read half their stuff.
when i was going door to door, i knew how to argue against it, but now trying to learn about it.. i was reading an article of the net about this and how christ emptied himself of all deity and that, but with all the statements made and arguments to and for it, one question was brought up.
when jesus was asked by his disciples about the time of the end, jesus replied neither i nor the angels know the hour, only the father.
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Mozzie
Thanks for those, ill see if i can get them, the funny thing was when i got their interlinear Bible i was able to reference it with my Greens Interlinear Bible, and i saw all the changes they made through their Bible, i sat in in the KH a few times thinking i should stand up and tell em every-time they quoted from theirs.
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Another trinity thing
by Mozzie ini have gone through the ones on here, i have read so much about it and everyone seems to have a different idea as to what the creed actually came up with in the sense of explaining it, religious leaders from most denominations seem to try to explain it and are all different, it does your head in just trying to read half their stuff.
when i was going door to door, i knew how to argue against it, but now trying to learn about it.. i was reading an article of the net about this and how christ emptied himself of all deity and that, but with all the statements made and arguments to and for it, one question was brought up.
when jesus was asked by his disciples about the time of the end, jesus replied neither i nor the angels know the hour, only the father.
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Mozzie
I have actually gone through the book of Enoch, but it was some time ago so ill have to look at it again, With the creed i have browsed through it but i got lost in it, i dont get visited by them anymore as they think i am still an interested member of the their KH tho i am inactive, i am fading again. but this time it is for good, so i don't have to worry about the debating thing, but thanks for the link ill look at it again
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Hello Everyone
by Mozzie inhoping this is the right section..... my story so far,,,.
hello everyone, i have been reading a lot on what most jws would say apostate websites, but i have been asking myself, how much of this s true and considering a lot of these are run by ex jw elders, bethalites and one who was with the gb at one stage, overseers and the like.
i was an unbaptized publisher many years ago but never got to the point of baptism as i fell into sin, that pretty much ended my attending meetings again.
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Mozzie
Yeah i have often and still do think about these things, i am convinced they do not have the truth, i have been looking deep into their history,, looking up their translations, Hebrew and Greek and how they change everything, so as for as i am concerned, i am free from them now, i can spend my time looking at other thing rather than worry about the crap they told me.