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Padron Case Settled. What happens to the fine?
by Slidin Fast in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
it seems that irwin zalkin has obtained undisclosed settlement in the case.

the $4000 a day fine then seems to be dead.

the downside?
Bobby2446

How are “digitally loaded meetings” (whatever that means) taking their toll when they are barely two years old?
We LIVE in a digital world, so it something we have all grown used to. Heck, the DVD is even soon to be archaic as the demand for downloadable movies has grown.
The response the GB has gotten is overwhelmingly supportive of the JWB monthly programs (which are digital and the reason why they green-lit its translation into more languages).
I seriously believe you are talking out of your arse.
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Padron Case Settled. What happens to the fine?
by Slidin Fast in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
it seems that irwin zalkin has obtained undisclosed settlement in the case.

the $4000 a day fine then seems to be dead.

the downside?
Bobby2446

I did get quite the chuckle from some in the ex-JW community who have claimed over the past several years to keep “in contact” with Zalkin about these cases implying that they have some sort of relationship with him, yet, they had no idea he settled these two cases until that Sandiego paper published those settlements, several weeks after the settlements were reached. In other words, they found out at the same time the rest of the world found out... and not a second before.
As much as I dislike Zalkin because of his sudden disappearing acts when his cases are dropped or settled, the man is far from stupid and is very self aware.
He will be more than happy to give interviews on ex-JW outlets, give them quotes, respond to emails etc, when he’s TRYING TO GAIN PUBLICITY for his cases (obviously to lure victims into contacting his offices so he can talk them into suing).
Then he’s stonewalls everyone after that, including these so called “friends” and “contacts” of his.
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Padron Case Settled. What happens to the fine?
by Slidin Fast in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
it seems that irwin zalkin has obtained undisclosed settlement in the case.

the $4000 a day fine then seems to be dead.

the downside?
Bobby2446

Never a JW “people are leaving slowly”.
So what? People DO leave, and people join. Some of those who left come back. So the issue is not binary.
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Padron Case Settled. What happens to the fine?
by Slidin Fast in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
it seems that irwin zalkin has obtained undisclosed settlement in the case.

the $4000 a day fine then seems to be dead.

the downside?
Bobby2446

I got the 3 billion based off estimating if each JW gave about 2 percent of their income in donations, it would easily be over a billion a year (some give more, some gives less). Combine that with the money not being spend on printing and it comes to be a pretty decent windfall there as printing is a massive expense.
Of course I don’t know for sure so it’s a lot of guesswork on my part.
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Padron Case Settled. What happens to the fine?
by Slidin Fast in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
it seems that irwin zalkin has obtained undisclosed settlement in the case.

the $4000 a day fine then seems to be dead.

the downside?
Bobby2446

Never a JW:
The property sales are a direct result of the massive printing reductions, which means less staff are needed.
However you forget the tens of millions used to build Warwick, the Broadcast studio, and other building used to film.
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Padron Case Settled. What happens to the fine?
by Slidin Fast in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
it seems that irwin zalkin has obtained undisclosed settlement in the case.

the $4000 a day fine then seems to be dead.

the downside?
Bobby2446

Never a JW:
Aging and dying is a part of life. My bigger point is why JW’s still care. They care because the leadership cares. And they show that they care through the fact that organization has proven to keep up with technological advances. You can see this in their feature-length movie productions and other video content, applications, and our research tools.
That alone appeals to the “new generation”. So I completely disagree with you. Had they still been forcing us to carry bound volumes to the meetings and brief cases, then sure.
But we can use iPads, tablets, and smart phones. That’s really right up the alleys of young people.
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Padron Case Settled. What happens to the fine?
by Slidin Fast in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
it seems that irwin zalkin has obtained undisclosed settlement in the case.

the $4000 a day fine then seems to be dead.

the downside?
Bobby2446

Phoebe,
Dont get me wrong, what I am really criticizing is these lawyers who don’t care about putting a victim through a traumatic case. They milk them and call it a day. They get rich. The victim is left retraumatized and drained mentally and emotionally. The lawyer then goes to see his realtor.
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Padron Case Settled. What happens to the fine?
by Slidin Fast in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
it seems that irwin zalkin has obtained undisclosed settlement in the case.

the $4000 a day fine then seems to be dead.

the downside?
Bobby2446

Lol since when did the organization care where “converts” come from anyway? YOU all make a big deal out of it. Growth is growth, no matter how little, or where it comes from. If the US never had another convert, they would not care. In fact, out of 8.3 million members, only 1.2 of them are in the US.
Like I said, its always next time, next victim, next lawsuit. Almost 20 years of that in the US, and you are no more closer to collapsing WT than you were then.
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Padron Case Settled. What happens to the fine?
by Slidin Fast in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
it seems that irwin zalkin has obtained undisclosed settlement in the case.

the $4000 a day fine then seems to be dead.

the downside?
Bobby2446

Phoebe
You want a plaintiff to see it through? You need a plaintiff that isn’t out to get paid. The fact is that its ONLY about the money. Lawyers only want money. This is the real world. People have bills.
So far, plaintiffs are content with quietly taking their money and disappearing.
Zalkin is NOT about holding anyone accountable. His goal is to make as much money for himself and his firm as humanly possible. That’s why only sues organizations that have MONEY!
Conti said “I will NEVER $ettle”. We see how much that was worth.

Change to motivation, and you will change the outcomes.
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Padron Case Settled. What happens to the fine?
by Slidin Fast in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
it seems that irwin zalkin has obtained undisclosed settlement in the case.

the $4000 a day fine then seems to be dead.

the downside?
Bobby2446

Slidin Fast;
You didn’t understand what I said — I said the sum is *relatively* paltry. For an organization that nets probably 3 billion a year, even a yearly fine of 1.5 million is NEGLIGIBLE.
And take a number and get in line dude — since 2002, the “next” lawsuit is always said to be the one to “bring down WT” — it’s always “next time” with you wishful thinkers.
You probably should understand that child abuse accusations will not bring down this organization — apathy will. Apathy is religion’s poison, and since it’s an undeniable fact that most Jws still care, you may as well find another hobby.