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  Pillowgate - John Cedars

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  Bobby2446

  Dubstepped, don’t attack me - attack my argument.
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  Pillowgate - John Cedars

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  Stuck -

  How are they “controlled”? The mere existence of rules does not mean you are controlled — we have laws in this country and those laws are enforced, but you would surely agree the government doesn’t control you — so there must be some mechanism in place that you can point to.

  So I would like you to explain how are bethelites controlled.
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  Pillowgate - John Cedars

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  You have “rules” in your house, don’t you, that are surely more strict than some others. That makes you “culty”? Of course not.

  So while no one is actually being controlled at bethel, certain things are definitely disallowed. This is really par the course for virtually every organization on the planet.
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  Pillowgate - John Cedars

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  When it comes to things of a sexual nature, its going to be personal and somewhat invasive and uncomfortable because sex and sexuality is deeply personal, and some people will get offended and be put off, but the organization can’t worry about that.
  

  But keep in mind the target audience. This video is not for all jws — it is for those living at Bethel. So they withhold the right to determine what is tolerated/not tolerated there. So in all candor, there is no “freedom of speech”, sexual freedom, etc, at bethel.

  They set the standard.

  I am happy I saw the video (I actually skipped the parts where he talked because I wanted to understand the points in context without his usual spin and twisting)
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  Pillowgate - John Cedars

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  @ oppostate,

  What I am doing is scrutinizing the logical consistency of whats being said. Every religion relies on “born-ins” for its survival, to a greater or lesser degree. The Bible makes no bones about raising your kids in the faith from childhood, and certainly doesn’t advocate waiting till adulthood to expose them to the faith.

  So basically what I saying is “so what”?
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  Pillowgate - John Cedars

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  Well, nothing would survive if we didn’t pass it down to our children. The human race wouldn’t survive if humans didn’t procreate.
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  Pillowgate - John Cedars

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  Yeah John, not a giant scandal. But if it gets a good laugh, then it gets a good laugh.
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  Pillowgate - John Cedars

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  “Expose Watchtower” - after 25 years of being a JW, I now chuckle when I hear that.

  Humor me please - how long does it take for WT to be “exposed”?

  Can we go back 35 years ago, when Crisis of Conscious was published? How about in 1997, when many exjws were lauding the end of Watchtower when the internet became mainstream? How about all the hundreds of ex JW books, and thousands of websites since then? What is being “exposed” in 2018, that hasn’t been “exposed” decades ago? Child abuse? Go back to 2002. Shunning? Lol. Blood transfusions? That’s been known since the 60s.

  So basically all anti-JW websites read exactly the same and has been since I can remember, because they don’t expose anything, they simply recycle decades old arguments. Heck he even admitted, with his first book, that he’s going down a well trodden path.
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  Pillowgate - John Cedars

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  lol weaksauce.
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  Pillowgate - John Cedars

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  Nothing “accusatory” about my statements. It is absolutely corrupt to charge people 150 dollars to tell their story in your book so you can afford to feed your family and take all expense paid self-promotional world tours. And what do you get in return? A man too busy with his “activism” to reply to your messages. But he is available when you want to send him money or congratulate him. Lol

  But as was mentioned, these introduction videos are merely to help people adjust to living at bethel. There are going to be different rules or codes of cuduct when you’re under someone else’s roof. Just ask those who join the military, or those who live on college compus. Both have introductions on what life is like in their environment.

  It’s life 101.