I think the reason you felt good after going on the ministry was due to not having the guilt you would have had if you didn't go. They are masters of using guilt to manipulate you.
Posts by Landy
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8Gotta love the ministry. LOL.
by Sabin inyou know how you go to the mid-week meeting & it is all about field service, how you can improve, do more etc.
do you remember how they would say things like..... "you get up brothers & you really don't feel like going out today, you look out of the window & the weathers just not good, then you look in the mirror & you say to yourself, i don't feel so good today.
you know your looking for an excuse not to go cause it's tough to get motivated on your 1 day off.
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Landy
There's a few documented changes between the original WT and the bound volume.
For instance, when talking about armagedon, changing, 'in the 20th century' to 'in our day' - think that was late 80s.
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Writing my Disassociation letter
by Bebopin intoday i am working on writing my disassociation letter.
i successfully faded a year ago.
but i feel like i can't keep looking over my shoulder anymore i just need to be completely rid of this cult.. any suggestions on letter and it's content?.
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Landy
Looking at it objectively, although I'm sure places like this can be a benefit to people wanting to stop being a JW, the last couple of weeks on here has shown that it can turn a very simple process of stopping going into an overly complex, dramatic and bitter process.
The OP seems to be a good example of this.
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Writing my Disassociation letter
by Bebopin intoday i am working on writing my disassociation letter.
i successfully faded a year ago.
but i feel like i can't keep looking over my shoulder anymore i just need to be completely rid of this cult.. any suggestions on letter and it's content?.
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Landy
Just leave it and walk away - you don't owe them anything.
forget about it and get on with your life.
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Elders, oh my God what a bunch of losers!
by Crazyguy inok i don't mean to put all of them into just one box so to speak, their are some that are smart successful etc.
but my god most of them are just wasted space, ignorant, no drive, horrible jobs, make nothing for income and the only thing in life they have going for them is this title.
no wonder so many will not wake up and hold on to this stupid cult, it's all they have.
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Landy
Think about how low you have to be to stick up for and take orders from this
Good point, well made :)
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Elders, oh my God what a bunch of losers!
by Crazyguy inok i don't mean to put all of them into just one box so to speak, their are some that are smart successful etc.
but my god most of them are just wasted space, ignorant, no drive, horrible jobs, make nothing for income and the only thing in life they have going for them is this title.
no wonder so many will not wake up and hold on to this stupid cult, it's all they have.
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Landy
Chuffed that I got a dislike for that. There's a fair amount of bitterness on here isn't there ..... ? :) -
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Do our loved pets come back when we do?
by Nichole ini have recently started studying and im really enjoying learning all about the truth!
i am a huge animal lover and have my dog trixie for 11 years now, i got her when i was 12 years old and she has been the best friend and companion, i am so lucky and grateful to have her at my side every single day!
i get worried a lot about what will happen when the time comes that she has to leave me, anytime i even think about it i start to cry because it would break my heart not to have her with me anymore!
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Landy
Just another post to confirm that JW's believe that pets and animals won't be resurrected.
They take the opinion thst Jesus didn't die so tibbles could be saved.
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Elders, oh my God what a bunch of losers!
by Crazyguy inok i don't mean to put all of them into just one box so to speak, their are some that are smart successful etc.
but my god most of them are just wasted space, ignorant, no drive, horrible jobs, make nothing for income and the only thing in life they have going for them is this title.
no wonder so many will not wake up and hold on to this stupid cult, it's all they have.
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Landy
I think that's probably a little unfair.
There's a fair percentage that like the sound of their own voice and love to lord it over the common publisher but there's (at least there used to be) a good number who are very sincere and are in it for what they believe are the right reasons.
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The really cool feeling of community within JWs
by Phaedra ini remember going out with other jws after the memorial.. small gatherings.. picnics at some local landmark.. the feeling of closeness, camaraderie, friendship with like minded people you could trust.. haven't experienced it since i left.. really miss that..
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Landy
Hi DJS,
Interesting that you agree with the JWs that worship of the state is a religion. I know several Marxists who would take issue with you on that.
However, out of curiosity, which country today do you consider most secular and atheist in which the population is the most happy?I think you can take it most western countries, with the exception of the US, are fairly atheist. The UK certainly is despite queenie being head of the c of e.
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The really cool feeling of community within JWs
by Phaedra ini remember going out with other jws after the memorial.. small gatherings.. picnics at some local landmark.. the feeling of closeness, camaraderie, friendship with like minded people you could trust.. haven't experienced it since i left.. really miss that..
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Landy
I think that the feeling of solidarity has to do with elitism
I think there's a lot of truth in that, especially amongst a subset of brothers. The witnesses do tend to attract people (elders) who like to lord it over others, be a big fish in a small pool and they do have a whiff of elitism around them. Not true of them all but from memory, definitely true of a significant proportion.