Posts by Landy

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February 26, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS Re: Witnessing in Public Places

by wifibandit in

february 26, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: witnessing in public places.

and.

february 25, 2017 to all congregations re: magnetic boards and posters for public witnessing.

Landy

if an accident were to happen and a pedestrian was injured due to tripping over the cart or something similar. Has anything like this ever happened? Would they be left to deal with the situation entirely on their own?

That's certainly what the WTS seems to want to happen. Utterly brazen. Especially as PL insurance for those sorts of activities would be a minimal cost.

I think what is more reprehensible is that the letter was only to the elders, not to the congregation. So those poor saps stood by the carts more than likely don't realise that the WTS will cut them loose if there happens to be a claim against them.

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A question to Non-US forum members.

by Spoletta in

now that trump is on his way to making america great again, will you consider moving here where you can get the best healthcare and education that anyone with a lot of money can buy, plus the ability to buy all the guns you need to protect yourself?

and it gets better!

if you are caucasian, you need never worry about discrimination.. am anxious to hear your replies.

Landy

It was an excellent congress speech. Full of rhetoric and promises of spending a trillion dollars on infrastructure and billions of dollars on the military, as well as a wonderful new healthcare system.

Strangely, not much about tax rises though.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/02/28/fact-checking-president-trumps-address-to-congress/?utm_term=.ef39b8b73834

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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

by Simon in

judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

Landy

Landy. The ARC makes recomendatios to parliament to change laws ect.

They aren't going to make JW specific laws.

I think the best that can be hoped for is a law that requires all people in a position of religious authority to go through criminal record checks and perhaps safeguarding training. While that would be an excellent outcome I won't hold my breath.

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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

by Simon in

judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

Landy

Yup.
I'd call that authority.

The point is, once they've attended and given 'evidence' the commission had no power to punish or effect change, other than through publicity.

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What did President Trump say about Sweden?

by kpop in

this you will never see on the mainstream media.

before you comment watch the whole video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqaigeqxqgi.

Landy

The last resort of failed arguments on this forum. "My opponent is just like a JW"

Well perhaps. Doesn't mean it's not true though. It's a disctinctly noticeable trait on here.

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What did President Trump say about Sweden?

by kpop in

this you will never see on the mainstream media.

before you comment watch the whole video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqaigeqxqgi.

Landy

But not as alarmed as I am at how bat shit crazy many other posters have turned. It's like tuning out of JWD and into right wing corner by mistake.

Scary isn't it. I go on other forums, particulary motorcycle forums where the conversation is a lot more combative, but even on there people are a lot less islamophobic than on here. Yes there are one or two, but the polarity seems reversed to here with one or two denouncing all muslims and the majority saying 'Hang on a minute'.

I wonder if it's anything to do with the JW mindset. I've always viewed JWs as being black or white in their thinking, with very little propensity for empathy or seeing things from other points of view.. People on here are generally very anti-JW (where they used to be very pro-JW, black and white?) and any comment seen as vaguely pro-JW has posters stabbing at the dislike button like a spastic chimpanzee. Bizarre.

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What did President Trump say about Sweden?

by kpop in

this you will never see on the mainstream media.

before you comment watch the whole video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqaigeqxqgi.

Landy

wouldn't you be curious about your Muslim neighbours views on certain things?
Would your Muslim neighbour treasure our freedoms and democracy, or would they secretly yearn for Sharia to rule?

No more than I would wonder if the nice couple on the other side are members of the KKK or BNP.

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What did President Trump say about Sweden?

by kpop in

this you will never see on the mainstream media.

before you comment watch the whole video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqaigeqxqgi.

Landy

And where's the cut off ... at what point do people stop being Muslim all together?
For all the people defending Islam, no one has ever come up with any explanation of what the actual difference is and why some are called Muslims and some are not.

It's up to an indiviual what he believes and what religion he considers himself to be. Freedom of religion remember.

A Muslim who doesn't agree with violence is a much a muslim, as a christian who accepts homosexuality is still a christian.

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What did President Trump say about Sweden?

by kpop in

this you will never see on the mainstream media.

before you comment watch the whole video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqaigeqxqgi.

Landy

The Muslim you think might be your nice neighbour is not really your real friend anymore than the guy at the local car dealership is your friend even though he's super friendly if you go look at cars.

That's a hell of an assumption. And a nice neighbour is all I really need my Muslim next door neighbour to be.

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What did President Trump say about Sweden?

by kpop in

this you will never see on the mainstream media.

before you comment watch the whole video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqaigeqxqgi.

Landy

What I said is that claiming the only "good" kind of Muslim is an apostate or ex-Muslim is an attempt to stigmatise anyone who claims to be a Muslim by forcing them either to renounce the identity or by categorising them as not "good".

That.

The extremist Muslims are (rightly) condemmed for being extremist, and on here the Muslims who want to bring their religion up to date are condemmed as not being Muslim.