i am not wanting to start a fight.
i just want to hear what people think.
honestly and realistically, what do you think the australian government will do, with watchtower, when they receive the full arc report?.
The government can do very little in reality.
As Ruby says, the biggest point of pressure will be public opinion. It's something the WTS need to sort from the inside out, and the more their poor safeguarding policies become known, the more pressure they will have on them to change them. Which in all honesty, I think they are doing, albeit very slowly.
i am not wanting to start a fight.
i just want to hear what people think.
honestly and realistically, what do you think the australian government will do, with watchtower, when they receive the full arc report?.
....and bringing victim and perp into confrontation.
Does that still happen? Please tell me it doesn't. :(
i am not wanting to start a fight.
i just want to hear what people think.
honestly and realistically, what do you think the australian government will do, with watchtower, when they receive the full arc report?.
Sooner who later, when posters innocently reply to Richard Oliver's OP, he will re-enter the fray and start pin-pricking posters' replies so that he can - once again - impose his strongly pro-JW organization views. He will sprinkle a bit of "legalese" here and there and use an "I'm only asking" mantra.
Then Fisherman will join in and posters will realize the "information-seeking" OP is just another way for these two men to further their well-exposed pro-JW organization views.
So what if someone does have pro-JW views? Is it your job to censor them?
My mother has pro-JW views. It's a good job I don't treat her IRL the way anyone with even remotely pro-JW views gets treated on here.
i have some tricks to play.
i know it may sound childish but i feel that creating havoc and forcing the memorial to be postponed will be the highlight of the night!
wish me luck!.
Was going to comment but undercover said it perfectly.
when i was a jw, i was taught that i can never succeed in life if i leave the sect.
now that i am no longer a member of the fold, how can i succeed in this only life i have and achieve my dreams?.
how can I succeed in this only life I have and achieve my dreams?
Get an education and work hard. Or sell your body.*
*The state of your body will determine your profit margin, obviously.
i think the worst thing about jws is that they like to take away peoples realistic hopes for a happy life now and replace it with false hope for the future.
tell a jw you want to go college and get a good career and they'll tell you that college is a waste of time, that you'll end up in debt or that the economy is so bad there are no jobs.
tell a jw about how scientists have discovered a new technology that could improve millions of lives and they'll tell you that scientists and technology have "ruined the earth" and cannot be trusted.
In the late 1950's early 1960's I was reading Eric Hoffer's The True Believer while I was pioneering 'where the need was great.' It certainly changed my perspective about remaining a loyal JW.
Thanks for the heads up on that book - I think I'll get a copy
i was pondering the recent influx of lawsuits against wt, specifically in regards to the child abuse cases (ie.
conti, fessler, lopez, etc).. in each of these, wt has settled for an "undisclosed" amount, assumed to be in the millions of dollars each.
i know there are many many more cases, subject for a different thread i'm sure.. i was reading something completely unrelated a while back that mentioned the dangers of settlement agreements for a large corporation or business (not just wt).
....responsible in the Fessler case?
I have no idea what that is - have you got a link?
i was pondering the recent influx of lawsuits against wt, specifically in regards to the child abuse cases (ie.
conti, fessler, lopez, etc).. in each of these, wt has settled for an "undisclosed" amount, assumed to be in the millions of dollars each.
i know there are many many more cases, subject for a different thread i'm sure.. i was reading something completely unrelated a while back that mentioned the dangers of settlement agreements for a large corporation or business (not just wt).
Richard Oliver, do you believe that they should be responsible when accusations are brought to elders and not dealt with? Once they know, do you find the Watchtower responsible?
The problem is is there's that many variations on scenario it renders your question meaningless.
The only situation in which the WT could share any responsibility is if an accusation is made, the elders advise the parents not to go to the police and the offender reoffends.
(matthew 25:41-46) 41 “then he will say, in turn, to those on his left, ‘be on your way from me, you who have been cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
42 for i became hungry, but you gave me nothing to eat, and i got thirsty, but you gave me nothing to drink.
43 i was a stranger, but you did not receive me hospitably; naked, but you did not clothe me; sick and in prison, but you did not look after me.’ 44 then they also will answer with the words, ‘lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison and did not minister to you?’ 45 then he will answer them with the words, ‘truly i say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of these least ones, you did not do it to me.’ 46 and these will depart into everlasting cutting-off, but the righteous ones into everlasting life.”.
At first I thought he was manning the cart.
He has that same enthusiastic look I used to have when I was dragged out on the field service.
greetings fellow brothers and sisters,.
i'm looking to visit cuba and was thinking of traveling to san miguel, cuba and i was wondering if anyone has kingdom hall addresses (phone/address/location) want to visit my brothers there.
i do hope someone can help me, i'm out of options :).
I think you've took a wrong turn somewhere and ended up here.
Careful getting to Cuba - you're likely to end up in Jamaica with direction sense like that.
