Posts by Landy

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Charles Darwin was not an Atheist

by LAWHFol in

personally i have the same viewpoint of darwin, when he said : " the safest conclusion seems to me to be that the whole subject is beyond the scope of man's intellect".

i'm not trying to convince anyone about the existence or non existence of god.. rather, i encourage everyone to keep seeking.

keep searching for the truth that makes the most sense to them.. darwin is the grand father of evolution, and his findings and life work, did not make of him an atheist.

Landy

That's what its all about. The ability to say "I don't know" and keep searching. That's what leads us to understanding, and away from superstition.

Exactly, but a lot of people use it as a means to introduce the god of the gaps

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Charles Darwin was not an Atheist

by LAWHFol in

personally i have the same viewpoint of darwin, when he said : " the safest conclusion seems to me to be that the whole subject is beyond the scope of man's intellect".

i'm not trying to convince anyone about the existence or non existence of god.. rather, i encourage everyone to keep seeking.

keep searching for the truth that makes the most sense to them.. darwin is the grand father of evolution, and his findings and life work, did not make of him an atheist.

You have to take his comments in the context of both the time he was active and the deep religious beliefs of his family. The reason that's often stated for him sitting on his work for so long without publishing it was that he didn't want to offend his family and his peers.

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2015 WT CD ROM Trying to Hide the Past

by The Searcher in

when installing, it asks if you'd like to receive automatic updates via the internet.. in other words, "we will re-write our history without you knowing what was written previously.".

the corporation knows that many will never exchange their cd rom for the puerile online library, so doctoring their previous "truths" is the best solution.. a bit like the creed painted on the barn door in "animal farm.

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Landy

Or it could be just a way of updating the software that runs the library - but you carry on being overy suspicious and paranoid.

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I was ashamed

by Happeanna in

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i was once a person who believed in god destroying 7 billion people so a few people could live in paradise.. when the penny finally dropped and i realised what as a jehovah's witnesses i was really praying for , it made me feel sick.

what is attractive about a person that prays for this world to end .

i was ashamed to have been a witness deeply ashamed .

Landy

For men and women not to have their brains and innards blown out at war.
Not to be blown into little pieces of unreconizable bloody pulps of flesh..that the dogs eat.
For tiny little children not to be physically and mentally abused and beaten.
For little children not to be ripped when being sexually brutalized...and tortured to death
you were praying for the child trafficking from Africa in small children being stolen for human sacrifices in Englamd and other lands ....where they keep the child alive and screaming for as long as possible as it makes the demons happy and they receive more power. Wake up to yourself! The bulk of the world is in agony ....no witness that I have ever known wants the death of anybody.....your talking stupidity

So kill them all to solve the problem? Seems logical.

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Brother in the rite, Councils?

by Aprostate Exam in

the councils of carthage, the council of trent, the first council of nicaea!.

gimme your thoughts?

Landy

I think you shouldn't eat yellow snow.

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Can Katie Kitten get up to 100% UK coverage with our help?

by slimboyfat in

very good idea for activism in the uk.

they've already contacted over 60 congregations about not destroying evidence the government may require, which must be about 5% of congregations in the uk.

getting near to 100% shouldn't be out of reach.

Landy

I've seen this issue on here a few times now.

Witnesses, like anyone else, are legally obliged to comply with uk data protection laws. That is the reason personal elder's notes are not being kept.

If they did keep them some idiot would start a frigging campaign to get them to destroy them stating they must comply wwith current legislation!

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Is proselytizing less condescending when evolutionists do it?

by paul from cleveland in

is it just me?

Landy

Proselytize just means to try to convert someone from one belief to another. Whether or not you're using facts doesn't make a difference.

And that's not what is happening - all cofty is doing is presenting current scientific understanding. The fact people seem to be getting their knickers in a knot over it is indicitive of their doubts and conflicting beliefs - that doesn't change the science behind evolutionary understanding.

You could read the same in any science textbook - are they proselytizing too?

Or a book on newton's laws - is that proselytizing?

edit - cross posted with cofty

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I'm A Pacifist but My God Wasn't!

by new boy in

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were is the sense...to this?.

i wouldn't go to war...i was a conscientious objector in viet nam.

i couldn't even get into a fight at school without getting into trouble.. yet my god...jehovah was is a jealous god an angry god....a god who when he got pissed off could destroy a whole planet...remember the flood....(the bible said he felt bad afterwards)...that was nice.. now he is getting ready to do it again....7 billion people worth....and why?.

Landy

To be fair, JWs don't join the army because they're pacifists but because of their stance on neutrality. Witnesses have never claimed to be pacifists.

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Evolution is a Fact #1 - Protein Functional Redundancy

by cofty in

i intend for this to be one of a series of bite-sized ops on the evidence for evolution.. introduction to dna genes are sequences of dna made up of words (codons) each of which are three letters (bases) long.

there are only four letters in the genetic alphabet (acg&t) each word or codon is the recipe for one amino acid.

there are 20 different amino acids in living organisms.

Landy

In my opinion there is no way the human body came about by randomness or chance.

That's my opinion as well - it had nothing to do with randomness and chance.

It did however have everything to do with natural selection and evolution.

edit - this site is a bloody nightmare when using a phone :(

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was Darwin an atheist?

by Ruby456 in

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asking this q because my own feeling about this is that he probably believed in god but his evolutionary thesis is used to support atheism.

how come?

Landy

A quote from Herb Silverman which explains atheism quite well.

Many people tell me they wouldn’t mind if I were an agnostic, but that I shouldn’t be so arrogant as to be an atheist.

I used to call myself an agnostic because I could not logically prove whether a god exists, so I took the agnostic position that the existence of any god is unknown — and perhaps unknowable. I was without belief in any gods and thought it highly improbable that any supernatural beings exist. When I learned that this view is consistent with atheism, I became an atheist.

So, my “conversion” from agnosticism to atheism was more definitional than theological. In reality, depending on how terms are defined and their context, I can accurately call myself an atheist or an agnostic, as well as a humanist, secular humanist, freethinker, skeptic, rationalist, infidel, and more.

I’m curious about why people find “atheist” so much more threatening than “agnostic” when self-described “atheists” and “agnostics” often hold identical views about deities. As with atheists, agnostics almost never give equal merit to belief and disbelief. For instance, I can neither prove nor disprove the following claims.

Claim 1: The universe was created 30 minutes ago and the creator planted false memories in all of us.

Claim 2: Infidels who don’t believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster are condemned to burn for eternity in a vat of hot pasta sauce.

I assume we are all “agnostic” about these two hypotheses, but at the same time pretty certain they are false. (I’d also call myself an atheist with respect to such creators.) The burden of proof is on the person making the assertion — as it should be with any supernatural claim.