Posts by Landy

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Richard Dawkins has had a Stroke

by cofty in

he is back home and making god progress.. he has issued an audio statement here....

Landy

Who is going to tell cofty what to think if he dies

If you must run round after cofty like a little yapping dog at least make your insults worth reading.

Here's some to get you started.

http://montypythoninsults.com

GWS God Delusion bloke.

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Why I'm not agnostic

by Coded Logic in

i think the time to be agnostic is when you have evidence on both sides of a claim.

for example, i'm agnostic about the existence of a historical jesus.

i think a reasonable case can be made that jesus was a man who was turned into a legend over a period of a couple of decades.

Landy

It's a guided process in a lab - who knows what the conditions were back then.

I tend to try to be evidence driven without trying to fill in the gaps to match any preconceptions I may or may not have.

I have an open mind and can admit that it's possible that it was guided at the beginning. I think that solution raises a lot more questions than it answers though.

With that in mind I tend to fall on the side of a spontaneous initiation of life. Ok, it might be improbable but so is winning the lottery, yet someone wins it every week.

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Why I'm not agnostic

by Coded Logic in

i think the time to be agnostic is when you have evidence on both sides of a claim.

for example, i'm agnostic about the existence of a historical jesus.

i think a reasonable case can be made that jesus was a man who was turned into a legend over a period of a couple of decades.

Landy

Kate

The point I'm trying to make is that science is not stationary - there may come a time when new theories make more sense to you and you can accept them as valid.

If that happens will you accept it and what effect will that have on your deism?

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Why I'm not agnostic

by Coded Logic in

i think the time to be agnostic is when you have evidence on both sides of a claim.

for example, i'm agnostic about the existence of a historical jesus.

i think a reasonable case can be made that jesus was a man who was turned into a legend over a period of a couple of decades.

Landy

But scientific advancement is sure of the process.

Apparently not as you still think it needs to guided. ;)

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Does anyone think Jehovah is protecting the org. despite all the talk about THE ARC ?

by tor1500 in

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i've been thinking this for a while.

even before the arc scandal.

it seems no matter what, the org.

Why I'm not agnostic

by Coded Logic in

i think the time to be agnostic is when you have evidence on both sides of a claim.

for example, i'm agnostic about the existence of a historical jesus.

i think a reasonable case can be made that jesus was a man who was turned into a legend over a period of a couple of decades.

Landy

Why are you convinced the formation of amino acids was an unguided process?

I'm not. I'm comfortable being not quite sure how it happened. That doesn't mean I'll immediately give credit to a deity for the things scientific advancement isn't yet sure of.

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A question on natural selection

by The Rebel in

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last friday my boy of ten was very late back from school, so i called the school, they called the police, and to cut a long horrible exsperience short he had been helping a younger boy fly his kite.. but what has occurred to me is that when orlando was 5 years old he was totally dependent on mummy and daddy, whilst horses, cats, birds and other animals are born and are independent within days.. so my question on natural selection is, how are we humuns still here?.

the rebel..

Landy

Not all animals are independent within days - some take years to become independent.

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Why I'm not agnostic

by Coded Logic in

i think the time to be agnostic is when you have evidence on both sides of a claim.

for example, i'm agnostic about the existence of a historical jesus.

i think a reasonable case can be made that jesus was a man who was turned into a legend over a period of a couple of decades.

Landy

Kate - regardless of beliefs you've made the fundamental mistake of ascribing things you don't understand to a god.

People in times past used to do that as well when they didn't understand tides, or the earth's orbit etc.

edit - when I say 'you' I mean 'we'

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Evolution and Atheism - please help

by Fernando in

not being familiar with either, my question is:.

what is the relationship between evolution and atheism?.

i'd love to hear from anyone and everyone, and also from any perspective.. without limiting the conversation in any way, i would of course also appreciate comments that are simple, clear, direct and correct (as i don't have the capacity to do a phd in evolution or atheism)..

Landy

There's no direct relation.

It's just that if you accept evolution as having happened the way current scientific consensus says it has then it makes God redundant.

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Why I'm not agnostic

by Coded Logic in

i think the time to be agnostic is when you have evidence on both sides of a claim.

for example, i'm agnostic about the existence of a historical jesus.

i think a reasonable case can be made that jesus was a man who was turned into a legend over a period of a couple of decades.

Landy

So with the scientific evidence I do have and then apply Ocams Razor....for me it's more probable there is an intellectual being responsible for guiding evolution in the early stages of amino acid formation.

That's not Occam's Razor - that's the God of the Gaps. Again.