The root of the issue isn't a belief in creationism or any of the other bible stories.
When it comes down to it, it's a choice between rational, evidence based thinking vs superstition.
Posts by Landy
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375This thread is for proof that God exists
by juandefiero inhowever, i haven't found any evidence to support that belief.. have you?
if so please, show me the evidence that god exists, and i will believe along with you.. criteria:.
(1) you must specify which god you are talking about;.
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Evolution is a Fact #25 - Deep Time
by cofty inin the 18th century the calculations of archbishop james ussher regarding the age of the earth were still accepted without question.
according to ussher god made the earth at 6pm on the evening of saturday 22nd october 4004 b.c.. this naive certainty was to become a victim of the scottish enlightenment and the brilliant mind of james hutton.
having qualified as a medical doctor in 1749 hutton returned to the family farm in berwickshire not far from where i am typing this now.
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Landy
Bryson's book 'A short history of nearly everything' has a fair amount on Hutton and geology. An interesting and entertaining read.
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Some observations...
by Wonderment intheburstbubble: just as a translation is it as accurate as they say it is?
or have they played with some of the verses to suit the beliefs?
just curious... i don't know why but i find it quite sad if the nwt is so misleading to support their own beliefs.
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Landy
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For those of us creationists who don't know anything about evolution
by truth doubter incofty- perhaps you would like to teach us the "first thing about evolution".. truth doubter .
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Landy
It's almost as if it wasn't a sincere challenge.
Surely not.
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Why Do Intelligent People Believe in God?
by cantleave inone of the most common thing thrown at atheists is - lots of intelligent people believe in god.
this darkmatter 2525's video is an excellent explanation as to why very logical people possess religious belief systems.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y201qzddzbg.
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Landy
we'll never get the truth of the matter if we dismiss it because it will ' create more questions'.
How to contradict yourself in one easy sentence!
I don't have all the answers. Science doesn't have all the answers. Lots of science's answers create more questions. That is A Good Thing. I'm quiet happy to accept that we don't have all the answers yet. You're quite happy to ascribe the unknowns to God.
If you'd lived a thousand years ago you'd be out sacrificing goats so the the rain god will allow rain to feed your crops. In another thousand years people will look back on current day believers in tne same way we look on those who worshipped in ignorance a thousand years ago.
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All JWs need to watch this great documentary...it may give them pause for thought.
by deanxxx ini know how hard it is to awaken people still inside the cult bubble.
there are many reasons for this, chief among them the unwillingness to read or watch anything critical of their religion.
on the other hand, jws love few things more than hearing bad stuff about other faith groups.
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Landy
I think JWs have an inability to correlate anything that happens in another religion/cult with their own. They will happily watch any docs on other cults and nod satisfactorily to themselves, self confirming that they have the 'truth'. -
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Why Do Intelligent People Believe in God?
by cantleave inone of the most common thing thrown at atheists is - lots of intelligent people believe in god.
this darkmatter 2525's video is an excellent explanation as to why very logical people possess religious belief systems.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y201qzddzbg.
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Landy
Anyway, like Simon said who cares what intellectual believes in God. It adds no weight to the argument.
According to a survey done (can't remember who or when) of the Royal Insitute there's a hell of a lot more don't believe than there is that believe, less than 5% iirc. And virtually no scientists in the biological fields.
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Why Do Intelligent People Believe in God?
by cantleave inone of the most common thing thrown at atheists is - lots of intelligent people believe in god.
this darkmatter 2525's video is an excellent explanation as to why very logical people possess religious belief systems.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y201qzddzbg.
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Landy
My belief in intelligent design is because it's a lot more logical than spontaneous out of nothing.
Did your God spontaneously come from nothing then? If not then how did he get there? Your 'logicalness' creates a lot more questions than it answers.
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Why Do Intelligent People Believe in God?
by cantleave inone of the most common thing thrown at atheists is - lots of intelligent people believe in god.
this darkmatter 2525's video is an excellent explanation as to why very logical people possess religious belief systems.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y201qzddzbg.
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Landy
For the believers it always seems to come back to the same thing: I don't understand it therefore God. -
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UK Congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses
by JWB inuk congregations of jehovah's witnesses[a].
aberaeron.
aberdare.
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Landy
Just out of nosiness I looked at the accounts of the Chelsea congregation which. it's fair to say must be one of the uk's more affulent congregations.
Notice that last years accounts showed a deficit of 220k - nice little donation to the branch of a quarter of a million!!
http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Accounts/Ends60/0001065860_AC_20120331_E_C.pdf